Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

[Illini2010-11]

I’ve said it many, many times on here … Andrea wants to be on the East Coast … She’s not an LA girl …

Danny wants the Knicks job … Always has … Told me numerous times it’s the only job he’d leave for …

You don’t make the announcement at UCONN and hold a huge press conference just to announce that you’re leaving … They’ve kept the decision really private but I’ll be SHOCKED if he’s leaving for the Lakers …

I always wonder how much longer Thibodeau is going to stay in New York. It has felt like he has been on the "hot seat" from day 1 of his tenure there. He has brought the Knicks back to relevance, but I can't see them getting over the conference semifinals hump with Thibodeau in charge. Not to mention he is already 66 years old.

I can easily see a scenario where this job will be ready for Hurley by this time next year (if not before).

 

[drsmitty74]

Sources: Hurley spurns Lakers, stays at UConn

Dan Hurley has turned down the Lakers' six-year, $70 million offer and will return to chase a third straight national title at UConn, sources told ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[spotter]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1800223125533294700

 

[Illini in Italy]

Hubris would be the Huskies failing to make the tourney the next two years, and the NBA having no interest in him going forward . . . . Of course, I'm sure he'll find a way to struggle through life with $7+M a year . . . .

 

[JJE]

Not a Hurley fan, but turning down 70 million with the Lakers had to be tough. Gotta respect that.

 

[Fan Since '70]

Hubris would be the Huskies failing to make the tourney the next two years, and the NBA having no interest in him going forward . . . . Of course, I'm sure he'll find a way to struggle through life with $7+M a year . . . .

In my mind, I would love to see Illini win inaugural 'Big 10-18 teams', the Big 10 Tournament, and then take out UConn on way to national title.

 

[ptgrd23]

Tubby Smith coached 10 years and won it all once, had 5 SEC titles and won 76% of his games. I will hope Pope is more Billy Gillispie.

Tubby last 2 seasons were ugly by KY standards. Billy G had 2 bad seasons then they hired Calipari and really started cheating.

 

[grue2]

Not a Hurley fan, but turning down 70 million with the Lakers had to be tough. Gotta respect that.

Don't feel too bad for him. UConn is offering 50M over the same 6 years. (He was making 5.25M/yr + incentives prior to the LA offer.) After a certain point, the money really doesn't matter. Its all about quality of life.

 

[Mr. Tibbs]

Don't feel too bad for him. UConn is offering 50M over the same 6 years. (He was making 5.25M/yr + incentives prior to the LA offer.) After a certain point, the money really doesn't matter. Its all about quality of life.

tru dat

happy wife = happy life

 

[Roundball Sage]

Not a Hurley fan, but turning down 70 million with the Lakers had to be tough. Gotta respect that.

As many of us know, there are more important considerations in Life than just money.

Taking the Lakers job means spending a considerable part of your time and life in Los Angeles. And Southern California is not the paradise that the hype machine has tried so hard to promote since the Beach Boys were singing about girls and surfing. (It WAS a pretty nice place back then).

Some of us who have lived out there find out the harsh fact rather quickly that the hype does not match the facts.

Yes, SoCal has some things going for it. Yeah, the weather (most times). But lots of things against it, too.

Even the beaches don't match the hype. Clouds often hug the beach all day and it's damp and cool. And the Pacific waters are always really cold all year and never warm up.

It’s also striking how different most Lakers fans are from the Chicago Bulls fans. Laker fans show up because it’s the thing to do and be seen with all the show-biz types. Most Bulls fans actually love basketball and the team and bring more real passion.

But SoCal does produce a good deal of roundball talent from the area. They have that going for them.

 

[RabidDawgClassic]

As many of us know, there are more important considerations in Life than just money.

Taking the Lakers job means spending a considerable part of your time and life in Los Angeles. And Southern California is not the paradise that the hype machine has tried so hard to promote since the Beach Boys were singing about girls and surfing. (It WAS a pretty nice place back then).

Some of us who have lived out there find out the harsh fact rather quickly that the hype does not match the facts.

Yes, SoCal has some things going for it. Yeah, the weather (most times). But lots of things against it, too.

Even the beaches don't match the hype. Clouds often hug the beach all day and it's damp and cool. And the Pacific waters are always really cold all year and never warm up.

It’s also striking how different most Lakers fans are from the Chicago Bulls fans. Laker fans show up because it’s the thing to do and be seen with all the show-biz types. Most Bulls fans actually love basketball and the team and bring more real passion.

But SoCal does produce a good deal of roundball talent from the area. They have that going for them.

Pros and Cons of living in Los Angeles:

CONS
Cost of living
Traffic
Homelessness

PROS
Everything Else

 

[WyattEarp]

Pros and Cons of living in Los Angeles:

CONS
Cost of living
Traffic
Homelessness

PROS
Everything Else

Wildfire, Landslides, Earthquakes, Relentless Taxes, and Insane Co$t Of Living…I mean Cali still has charm but it isn’t for everybody.

 

[RabidDawgClassic]

Wildfire, Landslides, Earthquakes, Relentless Taxes, and Insane Co$t Of Living…I mean Cali still has charm but it isn’t for everybody.

For me, personally, it beats tornadoes and snow. I'm a fan!

Taxes? Those are everywhere. But what the state doesn't use, we get refunded.

 

[LadyLoyalty]

Wildfire, Landslides, Earthquakes, Relentless Taxes, and Insane Co$t Of Living…I mean Cali still has charm but it isn’t for everybody.

These takes are so epically bad. Sure, SoCal isn't for everyone and it certainly isn't perfect but there's good reason Cal is the most populated/expensive state and the place more people still dream of living than anywhere else. I have lived in IL, FL, CO, MN, British Columbia, Louisiana and both NoCal/SoCal. I was raised in Illinois and it has some charms, but nothing else in North America touches the beauty, natural diversity, endless activities and climate of California. SoCal is so much more than LA. If you don't like the big cities, there's so many charming small cities and towns in the mountains, lakes, deserts, all the great beach towns, not to mention the small/charming redwood forest, Napa/Sonoma/Humboldt and Sierra/Tahoe communities up north. Yet, people seem to only hyper focus on LA because of Hollywood and politics. Very expensive but Cal still has far lower property taxes than IL. Sorry folks, you're wrong. California is simply the best, If you can afford it. (Below is Laguna Beach and my town Indian Wells in the Coachella Valley)

 

[grue2]

For me, personally, it beats tornadoes and snow. I'm a fan!

Taxes? Those are everywhere. But what the state doesn't use, we get refunded.

CA refunds what it doesn't use? HAHA. I've never seen one in 30+ years out here.

The difference between the CT offer and the LA offer is probably only about 15% in real results.
LA is offering 70M, 20M more that CT.
Of that 20M ~7.4-8M will go to federal taxes; 37%, possibly going to 39.7%
~4M+ (Not quite 6.3% of 70M) will go to increased state taxes; CA state taxes top out at 13.3% vs. 7% in CT.
There went 11.5-12M of the 20M

I started listing out other items that really impact CA costs. Then I realized that while a 150-200k/year difference may matter to most of us, they are noise at this scale. Call it ~1M over the contract.

 

[WyattEarp]

For me, personally, it beats tornadoes and snow. I’m a fan.

Taxes? Those are everywhere. But what the state doesn't use, we get refunded.

Well, I’ll second that. Those both blow.

 

[Miles Leonard]

Good move by Hurley. Everyone knows that he’d just be answering to coach/GM/owner Lebron James anyway. It wouldn’t be his team.

 

[IlliniFaninHoosierLand]

Good move by Hurley. Everyone knows that he’d just be answering to coach/GM/owner Lebron James anyway. It wouldn’t be his team.

Honestly, I don't think that has any effect on it. If anything, there's no guarantee Lebron will be there past this upcoming season and the roster leaves a lot to be desired as it is.

 

[OrangeBlue98]

Honestly, I don't think that has any effect on it. If anything, there's no guarantee Lebron will be there past this upcoming season and the roster leaves a lot to be desired as it is.

Do I think Dan Hurley can be a successful NBA coach? Absolutely. The stuff he runs now is pretty much NBA concepts, and he obviously does a remarkable job teaching them. His issue will be with the soft skills.

He knows that he will have his pick of NBA jobs. Like Indy said, I think he's waiting for the Knicks job. Thibodeau is 66 years old. I don't see him coaching a lot longer. As I've said before, I was shocked that nothing was reported that the Nets were interested in him. If I owned the Nets, I would have broken the bank for him and made him say no a few times. If the Nets never talked with him, that's organizational malpractice.

The only way I'd see him taking a job outside of the Knicks, Nets, 76ers, or Celtics would be if he had a situation like the one in Oklahoma City where he has a crazy-young roster and he gets to develop that roster together. His player development record is elite, and a team that wants to tank and rebuild with a lot of young talent would have him at the top of their list.

 

[SeattleSlim]

Well, I’ll second that. Those both blow.

We’ll, tornadoes actually suck.

 

[Captain 14]

Parental proximity in their later years is a factor. I stayed put longer than I should have for that very reason. Although I don't recall getting a 70mm offer either

 

[Illini in OC]

These takes are so epically bad. Sure, SoCal isn't for everyone and it certainly isn't perfect but there's good reason Cal is the most populated/expensive state and the place more people still dream of living than anywhere else. I have lived in IL, FL, CO, MN, British Columbia, Louisiana and both NoCal/SoCal. I was raised in Illinois and it has some charms, but nothing else in North America touches the beauty, natural diversity, endless activities and climate of California. SoCal is so much more than LA. If you don't like the big cities, there's so many charming small cities and towns in the mountains, lakes, deserts, all the great beach towns, not to mention the small/charming redwood forest, Napa/Sonoma/Humboldt and Sierra/Tahoe communities up north. Yet, people seem to only hyper focus on LA because of Hollywood and politics. Very expensive but Cal still has far lower property taxes than IL. Sorry folks, you're wrong. California is simply the best, If you can afford it. (Below is Laguna Beach and my town Indian Wells in the Coachella Valley)
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I lived in Orange County, CA for 30 years. I was in Newport Beach/Corona del Mar - immediately north of Laguna Beach when I joined Loyalty - hence the username.

I believe that CA is perfect - the geography and weather are perfect. In fact, so perfect that everyone moved there - which makes it totally imperfect.
With enough money, CA can offer a great lifestyle but everything is crowded and spread out causing freeway hell.

Corona del Mar is about as good as it gets. Even so, CA's politics and population drove me to move to paradise (yes, a beach house) near Charleston, SC in 2020. Best decision I ever made.

P.S. All due respect to LadyLoyalty: Bill Laimbeer (the Sleestak) grew up in Palos Verdes.

 

[IllinoisssssssVarsity]

He knows that he will have his pick of NBA jobs. Like Indy said, I think he's waiting for the Knicks job. Thibodeau is 66 years old. I don't see him coaching a lot longer.

Thibs is a 66 year old, never married, no kids, bachelor. He is married to the game. I don’t see him leaving the NBA by choice. I remember reading a story once when he was the bulls coach. He went to go watch a movie and everyone freaked out because he wasn’t around the facility and nobody knew where he was. Again, he went watch a movie, for a couple hours, and his absence was so abnormal people were concerned. It’s his whole life, I don’t even know what he would move on to.

And still at this point, when his guys buy in, he’s still good enough to put you in the championship conversation. If the Knicks aren’t hurt this year, they’re in the ECF vs the Celtics.

 

[WyattEarp]

We’ll, tornadoes actually suck.

 

[bluemountain]

I lived in Orange County, CA for 30 years. I was in Newport Beach/Corona del Mar - immediately north of Laguna Beach when I joined Loyalty - hence the username.

I believe that CA is perfect - the geography and weather are perfect. In fact, so perfect that everyone moved there - which makes it totally imperfect.
With enough money, CA can offer a great lifestyle but everything is crowded and spread out causing freeway hell.

Corona del Mar is about as good as it gets. Even so, CA's politics and population drove me to move to paradise (yes, a beach house) near Charleston, SC in 2020. Best decision I ever made.

P.S. All due respect to LadyLoyalty: Bill Laimbeer (the Sleestak) grew up in Palos Verdes.

I moved to Charleston in the mid-90's. Everything you are describing about CA in terms of cost and crowds is happening here. It's not at CA levels yet, but it's gotten to where entry level workers can barely afford to live here anymore