Penn State 21, Illinois 7 Postgame

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Yes. I have no idea why Valentine isn’t getting more action, from the eye test he is the best back, certainly the most explosive.

Feagin slows down before contact against CBs when he’s running the ball and has poor vision. That tackle on the other hand… he destroyed the guy. Best tackle of the night.
Valentine is a nice change of pace back and will be fantastic in time. Right now, he is too small and lacks the strength needed to be effective given our lack of ability to open up holes in the running game. He got a series early and struggled to get yards. Faegin is still our best back with the best chance of busting wide open runs as evidenced by his 34 yd run in this game when nothing was going.
 
#128      
just like in basketball where the blue bloods get all the best big men, in football the power schools get the best OLine and DLinemen. We couldn't open a hole or protect the QB, and they were able to get to the 2nd level pretty easily. You're not going to win very often when that happens.

I've pretty much always hated Lunney as a playcaller, but you've got to accept reality. We're not going to run right at a team like Penn State. You've got to use their strengths against them, if they are going to blast up the field, slide someone in behind the pass rush for a quick pass. Quick passes, provided they go beyond the line of scrimmage, extra blockers, roll the QB out, etc. In short, scheme up the victory.

We just tried to play smash mouth with a bigger, faster, stronger team. That's not wise. The defense did pretty well, but when the offense was repeatedly putting them in bad position, it's only a matter of time.
 
#129      
We’re a pretty good team. Get better on the OL in the offseason and we can be a very good team next year.
 
#131      
Valentine is a nice change of pace back and will be fantastic in time. Right now, he is too small and lacks the strength needed to be effective given our lack of ability to open up holes in the running game. He got a series early and struggled to get yards. Faegin is still our best back with the best chance of busting wide open runs as evidenced by his 34 yd run in this game when nothing was going.
Valentine had one touch on a shovel pass today. That’s it. You’re confusing him with McCray because it is impossible to tell their jerseys apart being #5 and #6.

Feagin frequently misses holes. Valentine was huge on the drive to salt the game away vs Kansas. 7 touches on that drive and made plays to get positive yardage where any other back gets stuffed for little to no gain.

I’m not saying Valetine should be getting 20 touches, but he’s clearly the most talented back in terms of finding the hole and his explosiveness in space.
 
#132      
Now we gotta be Penn St fans the rest of the year. If we go 10-2 with a quality win over Michigan and our 2 losses are to playoff teams, we have a decent chance at sneaking into the playoff ourself.
They'd have to beat Michigan and Oregon probably. Kansas is horrible this year and Nebraska looks very meh despite their rankings when we beat them.
 
#135      
We have everything to be pissed about with those two rouge flags that came outa wherever... Stay the course!!!!!
 
#138      
If Illinois wins the games it’s supposed to win, 8-4 is the floor for this season. Those games that shouldn’t be solid win expectations outside of a WTF performance are Michigan, Oregon, and Rutgers.

But I think they win one of Michigan or Rutgers and finish 9-3.
 
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#139      
Why, when we have a quarterback with an alleged cannon arm, do we not throw downfield. I'm sick of RB dives on 3rd and 8, or screens that go for 5 on 3rd and 6. Run downfield routes and let Altmeyer do his thing. He could be such a great QB with a better a better OC. Lunney learned nothing from the Nebraska game, and went right back to his usual MO for this one.
Because we don't have the linemen to hold the blocks and those plays take time to develop. When they're getting to the QB in 2 seconds, a throw like you're describing will result in a pick.
 
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Because we don't have the linemen to hold the blocks and those plays take time to develop. When they're getting to the QB in 2 seconds, a throw like you're describing will result in a pick.
and speaking to this, can we please figure out some hot routes or run more screens. something? there are ways to scheme against aggressive pass rush- McCray had 30yds on a swing pass
 
#141      
we looked like giant slayers the first 6 minutes .
after that , not as much

their lines were at another level than ours & where recruiting all 4* linemen shows up
 
#143      
Looking around the internet at the wider discussion around this game and team it seems the consensus from other fanbases is that Illinois is a solid, tough football team who deserves to be in the top 25. That's a damn good spot to be in right now.
 
#145      
This is year 4 of a multi year build. We aren't yet at a spot where we can go toe to toe with everyone. We played a reasonably good game on the road against a top 10 opponent and did not get embarrassed. That's good news to me. If we go 8-4 and play in a NY Wknd bowl that will be heights we are rarely in. I'm encouraged by this game even though we lost. We are a tough out for any opponent on our schedule. How many times in the last 25 yrs could we say that?

Arrow is pointing up, folks.
 
#146      
Why, when we have a quarterback with an alleged cannon arm, do we not throw downfield. I'm sick of RB dives on 3rd and 8, or screens that go for 5 on 3rd and 6. Run downfield routes and let Altmeyer do his thing. He could be such a great QB with a better a better OC. Lunney learned nothing from the Nebraska game, and went right back to his usual MO for this one.

Did you watch the same game as everyone else. They were flying up the field and in Luke’s face all day. The O line was really out played.
 
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