It all went to his head when he got the HC job …
I can share this and everyone can interpret it however they want … Whitman was never a giant Walters fan …
Illinois 50, Purdue 49 OT Postgame
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It all went to his head when he got the HC job …
I can share this and everyone can interpret it however they want … Whitman was never a giant Walters fan …
Oh, this sounds goooood! And yeah, I saw Bret's press conference and the end of it definitely piqued my interest. I understand you can't say too much, but any chance whatever it is comes out in the next couple days?
He was definitely a villain in Misery. Then he came to the promised land and became a good guy. Then he had a heel turn toward the dark side again; when he seized power in Purdue.
That is my very objective, accurate view as an Illini fan.
One thing that has always impressed me about Bielema is how respectful and professional he is towards everyone in this business. He's always thoughtful, always gracious.
whatever happened between them must have been really bad to have him this pissed off. does this also give more context to The Peoria charter situation?
whatever happened between them must have been really bad to have him this pissed off. does this also give more context to The Peoria charter situation?
I gotta say, between this and the fact that (in my relatively uninformed opinion/knowledge) Bret is pretty well respected amongst his peers so I'd assume his beliefs are not uncommon amongst the coaching ranks...
I might venture a guess that this could very well be Walters' only power conference HC opportunity for a while.
Well if he really was calling the offensive plays, will probably have an opportunity to coach either side of the ball if Purdue let's him go...
I gave my flowers, ate my crow, and apologied to Aaron Henry a few weeks ago. So I need to ask...
Just how much of this bottom shelf, bass-ackwards, give you anything you want Defense is on Henry?
I suppose we prepared for Card for 12ish/14 days of the Bye.
Walters is the 1 coach who still knows a fair bit about our Defense even if we've changed some of it.
So, experts... how much of 46 points to the worst power 5 team in the second half is on Henry?
Just how much of this bottom shelf, bass-ackwards, give you anything you want Defense is on Henry?
I suppose we prepared for Card for 12ish/14 days of the Bye.
Walters is the 1 coach who still knows a fair bit about our Defense even if we've changed some of it.
So, experts... how much of 46 points to the worst power 5 team in the second half is on Henry?
Well, no more than 39 of it, since 7 of those points were scored when the defense was on the sideline.
I'm not smart enough to answer regarding the other 39 points, though.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I mean the thing with Walters is that in age, experience and just general vibe he didn't exactly scream immediate P5 HC candidate, but got elevated to that level by an extraordinary performance of a defense and secondary that - we know now but didn't really know at the time - had an extraordinary baseline talent level.
Just a weird thing that he wound up getting the HC job at a rival school. Weird hire, never felt like a great fit.
Walters will be a highly desired DC if and when his Purdue adventure ends.
Just a weird thing that he wound up getting the HC job at a rival school. Weird hire, never felt like a great fit.
Walters will be a highly desired DC if and when his Purdue adventure ends.
Fair. Luke not running for 10+ yards on 4th and 2 didn't help either
My thoughts on this game/team/season so far:
1 Our defense is solid. We had one really bad half of defensive football. I can’t explain it, but sometimes in football a defense gets flummoxed/a qb/offense gets hot and you just can’t stop them. Our fault for getting burned on a double move and then getting strip sacked to give them confidence. Michigan will likely run it down our throats but I think we see a much better effort next week.
2. Purdue’s defense is atrocious, but I’m hoping this game gave Bielema the confidence to let Lunney take the training wheels off the offense. We have 2 dudes on the outside and a QB who can get them the ball. Enough of this conservative ground and pound stuff that isn’t working well anyways. Let’s score 30.
3. We’ve been losing these games for 40 years but someone won this one! We needed a W for 5-1 and we got it. I don’t really care how. We’ve got 4 winnable games left. Split them and 7 wins is a great season against this schedule. Win 3 and/or upset Michigan (who had KU or @Nebraska as wins before the season?) and we are talking about 8-9 wins from a mostly junior led squad who will return a lot next year. Stuff we haven’t seen in Champaign in a long time. We are competent and relevant again. Don’t lose sight of it.
1 Our defense is solid. We had one really bad half of defensive football. I can’t explain it, but sometimes in football a defense gets flummoxed/a qb/offense gets hot and you just can’t stop them. Our fault for getting burned on a double move and then getting strip sacked to give them confidence. Michigan will likely run it down our throats but I think we see a much better effort next week.
2. Purdue’s defense is atrocious, but I’m hoping this game gave Bielema the confidence to let Lunney take the training wheels off the offense. We have 2 dudes on the outside and a QB who can get them the ball. Enough of this conservative ground and pound stuff that isn’t working well anyways. Let’s score 30.
3. We’ve been losing these games for 40 years but someone won this one! We needed a W for 5-1 and we got it. I don’t really care how. We’ve got 4 winnable games left. Split them and 7 wins is a great season against this schedule. Win 3 and/or upset Michigan (who had KU or @Nebraska as wins before the season?) and we are talking about 8-9 wins from a mostly junior led squad who will return a lot next year. Stuff we haven’t seen in Champaign in a long time. We are competent and relevant again. Don’t lose sight of it.
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
Are we really sure? The first section I agree with, making it tough to believe the final part. I do think he will get a DC job when he's canned at Purdue but I think he'll be at a bottom P4 program (Wake Forest) or good G5 team (Memphis). Guys like Aranda will be viewed as much more desirable.
We had a big void in our defensive scheme without our all American Xavier Scott. What a huge hole it was to play without him today. Get well, Xavier, go Illini.
Why can we not run the ball with the stable of running backs that we have?
Fun observation from the game - Reggie Love spent a lot of time wearing (what looked like) a headset while standing on the end of the sideline during Illini offensive drives, looking directly at our play callers.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The general rule of thumb with these things is that a failed head coaching stint means basically nothing positive or negative to someone's coordinator stock.
Walters' coordinator stock was through the roof when he took the Purdue job.
Some SEC school will want him to turn their big recruits into Spoon and Quan and Sydney Brown.
Lol we had 556 yards of total offense and scored 50 points today.
Then one half should erase what's happened the previous 10 halves of the season. The defense was really good prior to whatever the heck that second half was supposed to be.
Not going to read this entire thread. Sorry, if it's been said, but 27-17 3Q after the 2 bizarre PU TDs and Bielema going for it on 4th down while within FG range was just effing stupid. I was pissed off from that point forward. Illinois did not deserve to win this coaching fiasco. They deserved to be embarrassed with a loss to that team.
21 point lead at halftime is nowhere near over.
And had about 50 rushing yards in the first half. Whether that's on the ability of our backs, O-Line, or OC is still to be determined. But Purdue's rush D wasn't exactly the iron curtain coming into this game.
I can't imagine him being the second string QB after this one. No way can they take him off the field. At 1-5, you're trying to find pieces. I think they found a big one.
Well, we scored 50, so Reggie is no Connor Stalions.
I saw that during the broadcast, thought I was delusional..
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