Pregame: Illinois at Oregon, Saturday, October 26th, 2:30pm CT, CBS

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GoDucks349
That was a very talented Oregon team in 1970 and they under performed greatly. Many went on to play in the NFL, Dan Fouts QB San Diego Chargers NFL Hall of Fame, Bobby Moore (Ahmad Rashad) 4 pro bowls St. Louis, Buffalo, and Minn Vikings, Leland Glass WR Green Bay, Bob Newland WR New Orleans to name a few.

Coaching staff included Jerry Frei (Denver Bronco, assistant) John Robinson HC USC and LA Rams, George Seifert HC San Francisco 49er (2 Super Bowl Championships) Carolina Panthers, Bruce Snyder HC Arizona St.

All that talent and a coaching staff loaded with potential and they managed to go 6-4-1
 
#254      
Chad Fleck
Re: Illinois Fan Crowd Noise

I'm sure this has everything to do with being more of a "basketball school."

Noise during a basketball game puts the home team into a frenzy on both sides of the ball and can intimidate the visiting team.

In football communication is obviously more important, and further broadcast than basketball. I guess ideally, the home football fan needs to be quiet until the snap and then get loud so the players can get some extra juice.
 
#256      
Curbelo Fanboy
SoCal Illini said:
In my opinion that is the optimal role of a HC. Ya other things can work and do all the time but I think that approach most easily and consistently creates an environment for everyone to succeed, players and coaches. Glad BB is coaching the illini.

Oregon is tough, and has more horses than the illini, but there’s a chance. Obviously hoping for a win, but if it’s one of those games where they actually play well, but just didn’t have enough I’ll be alright with that. It’ll be disappointing if they get blown out.
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Agree on Bielema. He seems to understand the full concept of how to build an organization. I'm sure he learned some things from Bill as well. He seems to "give a damn" about every aspect of the operation. Not just a flash & dash kind of guy. Really seems he is building a long term operation.
 
#257      
illini0440
Curbelo Fanboy said:
Agree on Bielema. He seems to understand the full concept of how to build an organization. I'm sure he learned some things from Bill as well. He seems to "give a damn" about every aspect of the operation. Not just a flash & dash kind of guy. Really seems he is building a long term operation.
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No one part of the game is more important than the other, Bret gets that, Bill got it and Saban got it too. Not saying Bret is either of those two but two of the best to ever do it had their hands on every aspect of the game and the important details that go into the little things, Bret is the same.
 
#258      
Fighter of the Nightman
Two of the best teams we had of the last 30+ years were 2001 and 2007. Both put together great seasons, but they serve as good examples of how very good teams can still have highs and lows. The 2007 squad played GREAT games beating #21 Penn State and #5 Wisconsin ... but they absolutely s**t the bed against a 2-4 Iowa team the next week, losing by the embarrassing score of 10-6. The 2001 team was more consistent (or had better luck), but we still saw swings like the double-digit victory at #25 Ohio State and beating #20 Purdue by 25 points in West Lafayette ... to beating Northern Illinois by 5 points at home.

The point is, this game is not some foregone conclusion because of metrics. Oregon is capable of coming out flat and just simply having an off day, and Illinois is capable of having that one game this year where everything clicks. This might be the optimist in me speaking, but I don't think we have had THAT game yet ... that doesn't mean it will come in Eugene, I am just saying that I do think this team is capable of putting together a performance better than what we have seen so far. Oregon has looked awesome lately, but they showed earlier vs. Idaho and Boise State that they can underperform.

If Oregon's B+ game comes out and plays our B+ game, then yeah ... line might be close to accurate. However, the outcome that makes up the "low probability" portion of those advanced stats is that Oregon turns in a performance like they did against Idaho, and we exceed our performance at Nebraska. If that happens, we WILL have a chance to win, period. We can only control the latter part, of course!
 
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Dkayak
Fighter of the Nightman said:
Two of the best teams we had of the last 30+ years were 2001 and 2007. Both put together great seasons, but they serve as good examples of how very good teams can still have highs and lows. The 2007 squad played GREAT games beating #21 Penn State and #5 Wisconsin ... but they absolutely s**t the bed against a 2-4 Iowa team the next week, losing by the embarrassing score of 10-6. The 2001 team was more consistent (or had better luck), but we still saw swings like the double-digit victory at #25 Ohio State and beating #20 Purdue by 25 points in West Lafayette ... to beating Northern Illinois by 5 points at home.

The point is, this game is not some foregone conclusion because of metrics. Oregon is capable of coming out flat and just simply having an off day, and Illinois is capable of having that one game this year where everything clicks. This might be the optimist in me speaking, but I don't think we have had THAT game yet ... that doesn't mean it will come in Eugene, I am just saying that I do think this team is capable of putting together a performance better than what we have seen so far. Oregon has looked awesome lately, but they showed earlier vs. Idaho and Boise State that they can underperform.

If Oregon's B+ game comes out and plays our B+ game, then yeah ... line might be close to accurate. However, the outcome that makes up the "low probability" portion of those advanced stats is that Oregon turns in a performance like they did against Idaho, and we exceed our performance at Nebraska. If that happens, we WILL have a chance to win, period. We can only control the latter part, of course!
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One article put the odds of an Illini win at 15%. Seems reasonable to me, is consistent with your reasoning, and sure makes it worth watching. I’ll be happy if we just play our best game, regardless of the outcome.
 
#261      
MustangWally
illiram said:
How do teams get their equipment to the island when they play at Hawaii?
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Teamwork Sas GIF by Channel 7
 
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aaeismacgychel
Fighter of the Nightman said:
Two of the best teams we had of the last 30+ years were 2001 and 2007. Both put together great seasons, but they serve as good examples of how very good teams can still have highs and lows. The 2007 squad played GREAT games beating #21 Penn State and #5 Wisconsin ... but they absolutely s**t the bed against a 2-4 Iowa team the next week, losing by the embarrassing score of 10-6. The 2001 team was more consistent (or had better luck), but we still saw swings like the double-digit victory at #25 Ohio State and beating #20 Purdue by 25 points in West Lafayette ... to beating Northern Illinois by 5 points at home.

The point is, this game is not some foregone conclusion because of metrics. Oregon is capable of coming out flat and just simply having an off day, and Illinois is capable of having that one game this year where everything clicks. This might be the optimist in me speaking, but I don't think we have had THAT game yet ... that doesn't mean it will come in Eugene, I am just saying that I do think this team is capable of putting together a performance better than what we have seen so far. Oregon has looked awesome lately, but they showed earlier vs. Idaho and Boise State that they can underperform.

If Oregon's B+ game comes out and plays our B+ game, then yeah ... line might be close to accurate. However, the outcome that makes up the "low probability" portion of those advanced stats is that Oregon turns in a performance like they did against Idaho, and we exceed our performance at Nebraska. If that happens, we WILL have a chance to win, period. We can only control the latter part, of course!
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And to your point:
2022 Week 11:
8-1 Oregon loses at home to 7-2 Washington 34-37

2021 Week 12:
9-1 Oregon loses on road to 7-3 Utah 7-38

2019 Week 9:
7-1 Oregon narrowly wins at home over 4-3 Wazzu 37-35

That's 3 bad games for Oregon in the past 5 years around this time in the season, 2 at home. A lethargic sleepwalking Oregon can happen, even in Autzen. Just have to hope this is the game and we are able to capitalize. Come and play an A game and hope Oregon plays a D
 
#263      
BlueFlag
In his video clip, I appreciated Josh Gesky's call-out to Gentle Hunt for Gentle's help in the game prep for Michigan.

It shows both the value off the field team members, and why all players, not just the on-field regulars (through NIL) , should be paid a decent wage for their efforts.
 
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PapaKvells
My daughter is an Oregon student so I’ll be tailgating there in Illini gear. But there has been a bit of a gif war between us.

There is one gif I’ve seen on here that I cannot find for the life of me. It is an orange crush girl clearly yelling “f- yeah”. Do one of you saints happen to know how I can track that down?
 
#268      
AZILL
PapaKvells said:
My daughter is an Oregon student so I’ll be tailgating there in Illini gear. But there has been a bit of a gif war between us.

There is one gif I’ve seen on here that I cannot find for the life of me. It is an orange crush girl clearly yelling “f- yeah”. Do one of you saints happen to know how I can track that down?
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#272      
IlliniNash
aaeismacgychel said:
An over 25 year long battle, lol. At this point I'm convinced it's a hereditary condition, haha.
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That’s how it was in the 70’s and then when we started winning in the 80s everything came together. The ILL-INI chant was loud. Some friends that did not make it into the Michigan game in 1983 opened their window at their apartment in western Champaign and could hear it. We keep winning and fans become more knowledgeable.
 
#273      
fuddrules
IlliniNash said:
That’s how it was in the 70’s and then when we started winning in the 80s everything came together. The ILL-INI chant was loud. Some friends that did not make it into the Michigan game in 1983 opened their window at their apartment in western Champaign and could hear it. We keep winning and fans become more knowledgeable.
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I hope so.

I learned at the tailgate before the Michigan game that Altmyer is a Sr. and Illinois is looking in the portal for a 1 year wonder QB. :unsure: This group tailgates every week.
 
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