2024-25 College Football Coaching Carousel

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SoCal Illini
BZuppke said:
So as to Walters I found the hiring strange to begin with. Here’s a young guy who’s never been a head coach doing well as a DC at Illinois. Separate from the personal issues, why would you think he’s the right guy for a Big Ten program that just won the Big Ten West?

I’ll add that Bret is exactly what I’ve been advocating for since Mackovic left - an experienced power 5 coach who knows how to win. Places like Purdue and Illinois cannot afford to take a chance on a hot coordinator or a hot MAC coach.
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I agree teams need to be careful for the ‘hot’ coordinator or coach. Usually it’s an AD that thinks the same formula applies to every situation without considering anything more than surface level factors. Doesn’t factor in experience or personality, which are tough to quantify, if that was the coach that actually built what was there or if they like to pork other employees.

I disagree on the MAC part. Candle has been at Toledo a while, I think he can be a good one, and although their current season is disappointing (Illinois 2023) liepold is doing great at Kansas considering where they were. Those two have long track records of stability and success, and are/were something of ‘hot’ MAC coaches. (I think beckman ruined anything MAC related for you)

It’s tricky and I find it fascinating why some guys get hired and some don’t, who ends up succeeding and who doesn’t. Really an art more than a science, and Whitman gets it.
 
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mhuml32
OrangeBlue98 said:
Back to the football-Walters’ contract should be public information since it was approved by the Purdue governing board. Do we know whether there is some sort of specific clause about relations with employees or a more general “morals/ethics/don’t give the university a bad name” type of clause?
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Institutions purposely avoid specifics because they want a broad scope for what they can claim as a fireable offense (or at least battle it out in the courts). You are starting to see more specifics about NCAA investigations, but that's (a) agents seeing that schools are using those as ways to push a coach out even though the school is implicit in those improper actions and (b) investigations take a long time and might exonerate a coach, so agents don't want their client fired for something that later is found not at fault.
 
#153      
Battle89
IlliniKat91 said:
My husband and I have had this conversation together and with friends and this is the consensus we came to. Some people like the challenge of "taking" something that belongs to someone else. I think others just like the idea of knowing someone is capable of commitment (or wanting to make it). The irony on the last one is that their idea of commitment is absolute trash if they think someone who could be persuaded to break their marriage vow has any real concept of the word.
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Agree with all the above and have similar stories myself...I got much more interest from others after I got engaged to my wife.

Always thought there was an element of ranking or approval in that too, like another person 'in the club' (my wife) thought I was worthy of a relationship / marriage and therefore that merited more attention or another look from women who had previously passed.

Anyway, contract has been honored since, Mrs. Battle89 and I have been married 33 years now.
 
#154      
The Galloping Ghost
A lesson in what not to do when hiring a college football coach. I simply can't imagine listening to Trent Dilfer for longer than a minute and thinking, "Yeah, that's my guy!" Poor UAB fans. Nobody deserves this.
rodgersherman.substack.com

A breakdown of UAB's Trent Dilfer Debacle (Dilfsaster?)

This is the story of a program which had a lot to be proud of, but decided its own remarkable revival was less interesting than ESPN's 248th-most likable personality.
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ptgrd23
Illiniguy74 said:
One thing about these situations that irks me is that it takes two to tango. Many of the women involved in these affairs choose to involve themselves with married men. I understand some were professionally pressured. But others just enjoyed the ride. The men are criticized for being unfaithful or degenerate (rightfully so) while the women who make it possible get a pass.
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Hmm coed undergrad hired by 51 year old football HC. Bobby Petrino was a victim!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848063905693659189
 
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ChiefGritty
ptgrd23 said:
Hmm coed undergrad hired by 51 year old football HC. Bobby Petrino was a victim!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848063905693659189
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Mr. Tibbs
ptgrd23 said:
Hmm coed undergrad hired by 51 year old football HC. Bobby Petrino was a victim!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1848063905693659189
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its a bye week for Purdue. now the timing of it being this week is making even more sense

Corey Patterson is the Associate Head Coach. Does he get the whistle for the remainder of the season?

who was the lad from Kankakee and the one from Naperville that spurned us last year? gotta think there might be interest from them on both sides
 
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illini0440
Mr. Tibbs said:
its a bye week for Purdue. now the timing of it being this week is making even more sense

Corey Patterson is the Associate Head Coach. Does he get the whistle for the remainder of the season?

who was the lad from Kankakee and the one from Naperville that spurned us last year? gotta think there might be interest from them on both sides
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If he does Purdue is way worse off than I thought
 
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RoundBalcs
Mr. Tibbs said:
its a bye week for Purdue. now the timing of it being this week is making even more sense

Corey Patterson is the Associate Head Coach. Does he get the whistle for the remainder of the season?

who was the lad from Kankakee and the one from Naperville that spurned us last year? gotta think there might be interest from them on both sides
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I can’t remember the Naperville recruit, but believe Jaire Hill (currently on Michigan) is from Kankakee
 
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Lincster27
altgeld88 said:
I'm with you but have wondered the past ten years about Nebraska. It has been nearly 30 years since Tom Osborne retired and, apart from his successor Solich and Bo Pellini I believe only one of their subsequent coaches have crested .500 and most haven't come near it. Like OU, success there seems as though it should be sustained with at most five-year lulls. They're now well into generational mediocrity,
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I moved to Omaha in 1998, right after the Huskers' 1997 natty. I wasn't ready for the religion that is Nebraska football out there. No matter where you go on a Saturday, the game can be heard in the background. It's everywhere. I worked at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, and one Monday after a Husker loss on Saturday, I went to my office. Everyone was angry. I went to my boss and asked why everyone seemed pissed. He asked me if I watched the game; I said yes. He said that the loss would make it hard to win a natty that year. I had just come off of a 1-11 season at Illinois, so it never occurred to me to think in those terms, but they do. Or did.
Solich took over for Osborne, and eventually got fired by a new AD for going 9-3 and winning a bowl game. The search for a new coach was farcical. I don't remember the names, but the coaches from UCLA, LSU, and Arkansas all interviewed, and all turned down the offer. Bill Callahan was hired after being fired by the Raiders. The AD made it sound like the other guys were just window dressing, because Callahan was always the guy. He was a disaster. He gets fired, Pellini is hired to satisfy the fans who said he should have been hired before. Chaotic tenure. He constantly fought with the administration, donors, alumni. Real POS guy. He and the AD both get fired, and now here we are.
This situation is foreign territory for Nebraska fans. They are dying to get back to prominence, and they may have the coach to do it. I never became a Husker fan while I lived in Nebraska, but I enjoy watching them now. Thanks for reading my brief retrospective of Nebraska football since 1998. :)
 
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Mr. Tibbs
Lincster27 said:
I moved to Omaha in 1998, right after the Huskers' 1997 natty. I wasn't ready for the religion that is Nebraska football out there. No matter where you go on a Saturday, the game can be heard in the background. It's everywhere. I worked at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, and one Monday after a Husker loss on Saturday, I went to my office. Everyone was angry. I went to my boss and asked why everyone seemed pissed. He asked me if I watched the game; I said yes. He said that the loss would make it hard to win a natty that year. I had just come off of a 1-11 season at Illinois, so it never occurred to me to think in those terms, but they do. Or did.
Solich took over for Osborne, and eventually got fired by a new AD for going 9-3 and winning a bowl game. The search for a new coach was farcical. I don't remember the names, but the coaches from UCLA, LSU, and Arkansas all interviewed, and all turned down the offer. Bill Callahan was hired after being fired by the Raiders. The AD made it sound like the other guys were just window dressing, because Callahan was always the guy. He was a disaster. He gets fired, Pellini is hired to satisfy the fans who said he should have been hired before. Chaotic tenure. He constantly fought with the administration, donors, alumni. Real POS guy. He and the AD both get fired, and now here we are.
This situation is foreign territory for Nebraska fans. They are dying to get back to prominence, and they may have the coach to do it. I never became a Husker fan while I lived in Nebraska, but I enjoy watching them now. Thanks for reading my brief retrospective of Nebraska football since 1998. :)
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the people I have met in my lifetime from Omaha or KC & OKC have always been about the nicest folks on earth. good people in that belt of land
 
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ChiefGritty
Lincster27 said:
I moved to Omaha in 1998, right after the Huskers' 1997 natty. I wasn't ready for the religion that is Nebraska football out there. No matter where you go on a Saturday, the game can be heard in the background. It's everywhere. I worked at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, and one Monday after a Husker loss on Saturday, I went to my office. Everyone was angry. I went to my boss and asked why everyone seemed pissed. He asked me if I watched the game; I said yes. He said that the loss would make it hard to win a natty that year. I had just come off of a 1-11 season at Illinois, so it never occurred to me to think in those terms, but they do. Or did.
Solich took over for Osborne, and eventually got fired by a new AD for going 9-3 and winning a bowl game. The search for a new coach was farcical. I don't remember the names, but the coaches from UCLA, LSU, and Arkansas all interviewed, and all turned down the offer. Bill Callahan was hired after being fired by the Raiders. The AD made it sound like the other guys were just window dressing, because Callahan was always the guy. He was a disaster. He gets fired, Pellini is hired to satisfy the fans who said he should have been hired before. Chaotic tenure. He constantly fought with the administration, donors, alumni. Real POS guy. He and the AD both get fired, and now here we are.
This situation is foreign territory for Nebraska fans. They are dying to get back to prominence, and they may have the coach to do it. I never became a Husker fan while I lived in Nebraska, but I enjoy watching them now. Thanks for reading my brief retrospective of Nebraska football since 1998. :)
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I think there's probably a majority of fanbases who have a Mike Thomas-type figure in their narrative understanding of the transition from old school to new school and why all of their dreams haven't come true.

I'll just say up to and including Mike Thomas the facts tend to cloud the picture when fans try to make that one figure the sin-eating scapegoat.

As to Nebraska specifically, I've always sensed that Tom Osborne and Barry Alvarez have a lot in common, with their king of football emeritus status as a double edged sword.
 
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Lincster27
ChiefGritty said:
I think there's probably a majority of fanbases who have a Mike Thomas-type figure in their narrative understanding of the transition from old school to new school and why all of their dreams haven't come true.

I'll just say up to and including Mike Thomas the facts tend to cloud the picture when fans try to make that one figure the sin-eating scapegoat.

As to Nebraska specifically, I've always sensed that Tom Osborne and Barry Alvarez have a lot in common, with their king of football emeritus status as a double edged sword.
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Bob Devaney was the longtime AD at Nebraska, and he retired I think in 1991-92ish. The basketball arena there is named after him. Bill Byrne took over, and presided over the heyday of Husker football, before leaving in 2002 to go to Texas A&M. In comes Steve Pederson. Young guy, ready to put his stamp on the iconic Husker football program. Major failure, and he was fired after 4 years. NU brought former congressman and football coach Tom Osbourne back to clean up the mess, and he was there for 5 or 6 years. They've had a few since then, with the obvious results. Interestingly, Trev Alberts left this year, also for TAMU. There seems to be a pipeline from Nebraska to Texas A&M for ADs. I do hope they get it figured out, because their fans deserve much better than they've had to deal with. But, now they know how Illinois fans have felt over the years, and it was probably good for them.
 
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Orange_Blue
Lincster27 said:
I do hope they get it figured out, because their fans deserve much better than they've had to deal with. But, now they know how Illinois fans have felt over the years, and it was probably good for them.
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Troy Dannen is a heck of a AD. He was at the helm when the University of Northern Iowa was beating the North Carolina's, Creighton's, Witchita's, and Kansas of the world. Plus, the football team was consistently beating FBS teams and volleyball could hang with anyone. He went to Tulane and hired Fritz. In addition, he is good guy. Not sure what happened at Washington.
 
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Ryllini
RabidDawgClassic said:
Lose one more game and the boosters will call for it. They’re already grumbling. That loss to Vandy was unacceptable in Tuscaloosa, and Alabama isn’t like any other program. The leash there is ridiculously short.
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I'd say he is safe for this year at Alabama. I don't think Cignetti's buyout is insane at all. He is signed through 2029 and if the source online is correct, his buyout is 8 million before December 1, 2024 and drops 2 million each year after.

We just have to look at the crazy in the SEC and see who would maybe want to pounce. Florida, MSU, Oklahoma, and Auburn jump off the sheet at me.

Watching Cig on gameday yesterday, he seems weird and twitchy in a meat head Elon type of way. He is 63, so hard telling if he wants to park it for the remainder if his career or does he want to make more hay. I remember hearing that NIL would not be a problem for him at Indiana. They seem to have money.
 
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TheDrinkinLincoln
Ryllini said:
I'd say he is safe for this year at Alabama. I don't think Cignetti's buyout is insane at all. He is signed through 2029 and if the source online is correct, his buyout is 8 million before December 1, 2024 and drops 2 million each year after.

We just have to look at the crazy in the SEC and see who would maybe want to pounce. Florida, MSU, Oklahoma, and Auburn jump off the sheet at me.

Watching Cig on gameday yesterday, he seems weird and twitchy in a meat head Elon type of way. He is 63, so hard telling if he wants to park it for the remainder if his career or does he want to make more hay. I remember hearing that NIL would not be a problem for him at Indiana. They seem to have money.
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From watching his interviews I think he wants to prove he is the best. He has that drive. I could see him jumping to OU.
 
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Ramrod2010
Ryllini said:
I'd say he is safe for this year at Alabama. I don't think Cignetti's buyout is insane at all. He is signed through 2029 and if the source online is correct, his buyout is 8 million before December 1, 2024 and drops 2 million each year after.

We just have to look at the crazy in the SEC and see who would maybe want to pounce. Florida, MSU, Oklahoma, and Auburn jump off the sheet at me.

Watching Cig on gameday yesterday, he seems weird and twitchy in a meat head Elon type of way. He is 63, so hard telling if he wants to park it for the remainder if his career or does he want to make more hay. I remember hearing that NIL would not be a problem for him at Indiana. They seem to have money.
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Seems like a tool, to be honest. His responses to the interview going into the half were brain rot level.

We thought Tom Allen was annoying, but Cig appears to have him beat in that department.
 
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