2024-25 College Football Coaching Carousel

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Lose one more game and the boosters will call for it. They’re already grumbling. That loss to Vandy was unacceptable in Tuscaloosa, and Alabama isn’t like any other program. The leash there is ridiculously short.
While I get that standards in Tuscaloosa are insanely high, especially post-Saban, they would have to have their season go really bad really quick before the AD at Bama would even consider making a change.
 
#178      
I'd say he is safe for this year at Alabama. I don't think Cignetti's buyout is insane at all. He is signed through 2029 and if the source online is correct, his buyout is 8 million before December 1, 2024 and drops 2 million each year after.

We just have to look at the crazy in the SEC and see who would maybe want to pounce. Florida, MSU, Oklahoma, and Auburn jump off the sheet at me.

Watching Cig on gameday yesterday, he seems weird and twitchy in a meat head Elon type of way. He is 63, so hard telling if he wants to park it for the remainder if his career or does he want to make more hay. I remember hearing that NIL would not be a problem for him at Indiana. They seem to have money.
For a guy who has continually and steadily worked his way up the ladder for the last 30 years, I would be pretty surprised if the IU job is where he decides "yeah, good enough."
 
#179      
Rice has fired head coach Mike Bloomgren. Bloomgren was 24-52 overall in 6+ seasons in charge of the Owls. He was 2-6 this season after their loss yesterday to UConn. They had momentum heading into this season after making bowl games the past 2 seasons (though they got in due to APR in 2022 because of insufficiently eligible bowl teams) but couldn't sustain it at arguably one of the toughest coaching jobs in the country.
 
#180      
My husband and I have had this conversation together and with friends and this is the consensus we came to. Some people like the challenge of "taking" something that belongs to someone else. I think others just like the idea of knowing someone is capable of commitment (or wanting to make it). The irony on the last one is that their idea of commitment is absolute trash if they think someone who could be persuaded to break their marriage vow has any real concept of the word.
If the person closest to him in life can't trust him, I sure can't. If I had a kid being recruited, I'd ask him if he thought it'd smart doing business with a known liar?

Honest people don't surround themselves with cheat or liars. When they discover one, they move them out. Integrity matters.

And that's an fundamentally important issue these days. Not just for NIL deals.
 
#183      
I’m sure cignetti has his agent feeling around. What better time than after a season like this at Indiana, where in all likelihood they won’t have the same success next year. They’d probably still be good, just not 8-0.

I think as soon as the auburns, Florida states, oklahomas and the like come knocking he’s bolting, and would prefer to do so sooner rather than later. Whether it works out or not at the next stop, we’ll see. My gut is telling me we’re seeing “peak cignetti” currently
 
#184      
Can’t believe we are this far into the week and Walters is still employed. For their own sake, they better have legal speed things up to send him packing with enough time to get ready for Northwestern next week.

Or maybe they don’t care about winning another game this year?
Commits droppin PU.....downward slope.....
 
#185      
I’m sure cignetti has his agent feeling around. What better time than after a season like this at Indiana, where in all likelihood they won’t have the same success next year. They’d probably still be good, just not 8-0.

I think as soon as the auburns, Florida states, oklahomas and the like come knocking he’s bolting, and would prefer to do so sooner rather than later. Whether it works out or not at the next stop, we’ll see. My gut is telling me we’re seeing “peak cignetti” currently
Not sure what the IU schedule is next year.....pretty easy schedule for IU this year.
 
#186      
JMO - Indiana will come up with very nice raise/extension and Cignetti will stay. He has paid his dues like Brad U. The B10 has been very diluted by the expansion. You only have to play 2-3 top 15 programs then other 7 games are against mediocre teams so getting to 9 wins is achievable for anybody. IU will only play one - OSU.

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#187      
Trivia time, can anyone tell me who Curt Cignetti replaced at IUP? (Division 2's Indiana University of Pennsylvania, for the uninitiated)
 
#189      
After a glorious few years under Mike White and John Mackovic

The start of the time of darkness for Illini.

Tepper 25-31, best year 7-5 45%
Turner 35-57 best year 10-2 Sugar Bowl 38%
Zook 34-51 best year 9-4 Rose Bowl 40%
Beckman 12-25 best year 6-7 32%
Smith 17-39 best year 6-7 30%
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#194      
This will be a good test case of the P2 environment. Any B1G program = a big time program.
This isn't the NFL where structures are built in to guarantee some degree of parity. Even within the P2 there are still haves and have nots, in terms of money/booster support and brand recognition, which are major factors in recruiting. Yes, with the right moves and a little luck Indiana could turn into OSU* in 5-10 years. But OSU is OSU right now, and I imagine for most coaches it would be tempting to just go take the program that already has those resources over trying to build a program up to that level.

*I'm using OSU just to compare B1G to B1G - not suggesting any possibility of Cignetti going there.
 
#195      
This isn't the NFL where structures are built in to guarantee some degree of parity. Even within the P2 there are still haves and have nots, in terms of money/booster support and brand recognition, which are major factors in recruiting. Yes, with the right moves and a little luck Indiana could turn into OSU* in 5-10 years. But OSU is OSU right now, and I imagine for most coaches it would be tempting to just go take the program that already has those resources over trying to build a program up to that level.

*I'm using OSU just to compare B1G to B1G - not suggesting any possibility of Cignetti going there.
OSU has always been OSU and will always be OSU. The best anyone else is going to do in the BT next to OSU, Michigan, SC and Oregon, is to become Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska or Washington. And even Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska and Washington are no longer Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska and Washington, IYKWIM.

And thus ends the most redundant three sentences I'll ever write.
 
#196      
OSU has always been OSU and will always be OSU.
The idea that OSU could never fail isn't true. There's no magic they have that Texas or Tennessee or USC doesn't.

But like those programs the sheer volume and intensity of their fan support will always give them the ability to push back toward the top.

"Why do blue blood programs stay on top?" is essentially this meme

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This isn't the NFL where structures are built in to guarantee some degree of parity. Even within the P2 there are still haves and have nots, in terms of money/booster support and brand recognition, which are major factors in recruiting. Yes, with the right moves and a little luck Indiana could turn into OSU* in 5-10 years. But OSU is OSU right now, and I imagine for most coaches it would be tempting to just go take the program that already has those resources over trying to build a program up to that level.

*I'm using OSU just to compare B1G to B1G - not suggesting any possibility of Cignetti going there.
Right - my point is that at the moment, especially in the early days of this set up, being one of the B1G Have Nots is still a clearly better place to be than anywhere that isn't in the B1G/SEC. In years past, we'd see Neal Brown on the hot seat and think "oh man Curt Cignetti probably takes the WVU job" but now that seems farfetched.
 
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Right - my point is that at the moment, especially in the early days of this set up, being one of the B1G Have Nots is still a clearly better place to be than anywhere that isn't in the B1G/SEC. In years past, we'd see Neal Brown on the hot seat and think "oh man Curt Cignetti probably takes the WVU job" but now that seems farfetched.
Agree to this. I think eventually Cignetti leaves in an instant if he gets an offer from a better P2 program, but yeah, coaches are not going to leave P2 schools for programs outside the duopoly.
 
#199      
The idea that OSU could never fail isn't true. There's no magic they have that Texas or Tennessee or USC doesn't.

But like those programs the sheer volume and intensity of their fan support will always give them the ability to push back toward the top.

"Why do blue blood programs stay on top?" is essentially this meme

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It's not that OSU and Michigan (and other power houses like Oregon, USC, Alabama, etcetera) can't fail. It's that when they do fail they bounce back within a hiring cycle or two which due to the sheer amount of money they have is like 3-6 years. I miss the RichRod Brady Hoke years at Michigan. OSU has had a pretty good run, but I have to think that Day is starting to show cracks of a collapse there.
 
#200      
OSU has always been OSU and will always be OSU. The best anyone else is going to do in the BT next to OSU, Michigan, SC and Oregon, is to become Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska or Washington. And even Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska and Washington are no longer Iowa, Wisconsin, Nebraska and Washington, IYKWIM.

And thus ends the most redundant three sentences I'll ever write.
Yes, I agree that OSU will always have an inherent advantage given its fanbase, resources, and history. That's why a coach would much rather land there than pretty much any other program in the B1G, which was kind of my point.

I think *right now* Oregon is as solid a program as OSU. Wasn't always so. Likewise, I do think the possibility is there for another program, even Indiana, to get into that top tier. But it would take time, resources, and luck, and I'm not sure any highly successful HC would be able to resist the allure of an established program for long enough to make it happen. IF Cignetti is the real deal and the next Nick Saban, and IF he stays at Indiana, and IF the boosters pump up the football program (likely at the expense of basketball) and make sure he gets what he needs in recruiting, and IF things generally bounce the right way, then it could happen for Indiana. That's a LOT of ifs which illustrates why I think Cignetti pounces on any blue blood or blue blood-adjacent offer he gets.
 
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