IHSA Football Playoffs 2024
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Camp points coach was also complaining on twitter. His team beat Althoff last year by 20 points in the playoffs. All these schools only have an issue when they lose.
On twitter mt Zion is saying they’re thr public school champs. Coal city would’ve beat them just as bad as DePaul did.
The one thing Byron got screwed on was having to okay at Montini in round 2.
On twitter mt Zion is saying they’re thr public school champs. Coal city would’ve beat them just as bad as DePaul did.
The one thing Byron got screwed on was having to okay at Montini in round 2.
TentakilRex
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Most of these years Montini was in 5A or 6A. Montini won in 3A this year and the Byron team that beat them is a mutant and one of the few teams in this entire state that wouldn't humiliate themselves they played in Texas's UIL.
Althoff is even bigger joke being 1A. Their best recruit, I mean player, is from St Louis.
https://247sports.com/Player/Dierre-Hill-46128140/
Congrats on ending your playoff drought against a school whose main town doesn't even have a McDonalds!
Oh yeah here is the other schools of Belleville compared to Lena, IL.
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I agree that Althof being in 1a is a joke.
Montini only won 1 in 6a and that was against Crete in 2015. The program is a shell of what it used to be. They couldn’t field a freshman team. They also recently went several years without making the playoffs.
Montini only won 1 in 6a and that was against Crete in 2015. The program is a shell of what it used to be. They couldn’t field a freshman team. They also recently went several years without making the playoffs.
TentakilRex
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BTW I am no expert in Cook County Geography, but here is the public school based in Lombard, IL.Most of these years Montini was in 5A or 6A. Montini won in 3A this year and the Byron team that beat them is a mutant and one of the few teams in this entire state that wouldn't humiliate themselves they played in Texas's UIL.
Althoff is even bigger joke being 1A. Their best recruit, I mean player, is from St Louis.
https://247sports.com/Player/Dierre-Hill-46128140/
Congrats on ending your playoff drought against a school whose main town doesn't even have a McDonalds!
Oh yeah here is the other schools of Belleville compared to Lena, IL.
I needed something to help me get rid of some Adrenalin after watching the Illini go to 9-3, so I did some really simple research
In the 9 previous playoff years (no playoffs in 2020), private schools won 26 of the 72 possible titles. This year, it will be 6 or 7 out of 8, depending on whether Loyola Academy wins 8A. That would make 33 out of 80 (if LA wins).
Among the public school winners in that 10-playoff period, East St. Louis and Rochester have 5 apiece, Wilmington and Lena-Winslow 3 apiece and Byron 2.
That’s 51 out of 80 possible titles between the private schools and those 5 public schools. (Sorry, I know there wasn’t supposed to be any math during the holiday weekend. )
In the 9 previous playoff years (no playoffs in 2020), private schools won 26 of the 72 possible titles. This year, it will be 6 or 7 out of 8, depending on whether Loyola Academy wins 8A. That would make 33 out of 80 (if LA wins).
Among the public school winners in that 10-playoff period, East St. Louis and Rochester have 5 apiece, Wilmington and Lena-Winslow 3 apiece and Byron 2.
That’s 51 out of 80 possible titles between the private schools and those 5 public schools. (Sorry, I know there wasn’t supposed to be any math during the holiday weekend. )
Lombard is in dupage and what does Glenbaed East have to do with Montini. You also realize how many private schools are close by that they have to compete with for kids. Not to mention they have compete with very good public schools for kids.
Iccp is in Elmhurst and the local public school is York. Does that mean Iccp should have to play in 8a even though they have 300 kids
Cary grove also has a few titles in there.
My bad. They have 3 in that time period, so 54 out of 80 for the privates and those 6 public schools.
TentakilRex
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Actually I had an idea on twitter yestrday which I will copy and paste here,
I have a potential idea for private schools:Have the private school enrollment be the average enrollment of all schools of their municipality. For example Althoff Catholic's football enrollment should be the average of their, Belleville East, and Belleville West's enrollment. In this case:
AC- 288
BEHS- 2439
BWHS- 2111
Thus Althoff Catholic's football enrollment would be 1613.
I may give double weight to the enrollment numbers in another version.
Doing this Iccp would be a 7a school with an enrollment of 300 kids. How does that make sense. The biggest issue was the champs from 1-4a all didn’t have their multiplier this year. Get rid of that rule and the problem is solved. That rule was voted on by the IHSA members so it’s their fault this happened
Something to consider is that only 49 non-boundaried/private schools play 11-man football, when you don't count the CPL schools.
TentakilRex
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BTW don't anger fans/alums of small schools, their petty is outsized 
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.....Ryllini
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Nothing for nothing, but Willowbrook in Villa Park pulls from Lombard as well. Glenbard East is the main highschool, but also will pull from Glendale Heights. Glen Elyn and the other Glenbard schools refuse to take any of the Glendale kids.
Part of Lombard goes to glenbard south also part of bloomingdale goes to glenbard east
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Loyola Academy leading York 21-14 at the half, so it's at least a reasonably close game, as I suspected it might be. Go Dukes!
Glenbard West has had players from Glendale Heights for the last 30 years. Willowbrook and Glenbard East both made the playoffs again this year. Montini has about 30 Lombard kids on varsity but also draws from Villa Park, Elmhurst, Glen Ellyn, Downers Grove, Hinsdale, Oak Brook, Maywood, Bellwood and a few other suburbs.
Yeah but the percentage of those 68 titles out of the number of playoff teams from private schools is a much higher ratio. I think I read there are around 11% private schools in IHSA and they are winning around 33% of the football titles. In girls sports it probably is much higher.
Very good game and one of Yorks best players got hurt early in the game. Jimmy Connors is an impact player on both sides of the ball
I forget the number off hand but private schools make up around 18% of the IHSA but they will at a higher rate than that. That’s an argument that I’ve heard.
Ryllini
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I think with private schools, just figure the multiplier and leave them there. Montini should probably never leave 4a or 5a. Bottom line. Brother Rice and Mount Carmel should probably never leave 8a. Joliet catholic and Naz should probably always be 6a. You get the drift. The bouncing around I think is rubbing people the wrong way and with these public schools taking it on the chin in the majority of classes 2 of the last 3 have them squirming.
Seems like some easy fixes, but I'm sure whatever changes they make if they do will go too far. I don't want a separate championship. If you are going to go through the trouble of bringing these championship games to tv, you have to everything you can to bring your best teams to meet up in these games.
I also am in favor of public schools and private wanting a waiver to play up.
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
I'm late to the party on this debate, but the situation does need to be addressed. The private schools won what.....7 out of the 8 class championships with East St Louis, a national powerhouse, being the outlier?
I agree with you 100% that schools should be able to play up upon a waiver being granted. ESL in 6A is an absolute joke. It was never a matter of it they were going to win, it was just a matter of by how much.
Hopefully all 8 classes of playoffs, highlighted by the championship games will at least create some discussion.
Another thing to keep in mind is that 90% of the private schools aren't an issue in football. The CCL/ESCC is just a different beast, especially with 24 teams all recruiting over each other to be the best football team in the state. They split the teams into 6 4-team conferences by quality/locality, and I wonder if it just makes sense for IHSA to classify each division up front (so the top 2 divisions are 8A, next two are 7A, bottom two 6A). Could be more spread out I guess as enrollment dips in some programs, but there's an inherent advantage in being in the CCL for football, for better or worse.
People hate the multiplier and the waiver (for different reasons), but the waiver is correctly applied most of the time, it's just weird that it's on the 2 year cycle (so a team like IC Catholic that is a perennial 4A power will get bumped down to 2A this year because they automatically get the waiver for lack of playoff wins in this recent 2 years).
There are other things that should be addressed too, like certain schools pulling in senior transfers to overwhelm a small division and effectively buy a state title, which doesn't feel good for anybody.
On the flip side, the losing teams are all extremely salty and looking for any way to declare the situation unfair, and to them I say suck it up, sometimes you just get beat, or it's not your day.
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