Illinois Football Recruiting Thread

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Not going after a qb suggests that Leary is sticking around?
We probably will bring in a QB (re: Paddock) - it's just not as much of a priority as the above listed positions. Also tough to find anyone with experience willing to ride the bench. We hit the lottery with Paddock wanting to come to his family's school
 
#178      
We probably will bring in a QB (re: Paddock) - it's just not as much of a priority as the above listed positions. Also tough to find anyone with experience willing to ride the bench. We hit the lottery with Paddock wanting to come to his family's school
If Luke and Leary stay, I’m not sure why we’d want a QB brought in. We have other young guys with lots of potential, too.

Petty, Boyd, I think.
 
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There’s a lot less known on the players outside the top hundred or two vs basketball.

In other sports, all the top kids compete against each for years. They just don’t play that many games and kids at smaller programs are missed a lot more. There’s not as much aggregation of talent events as basketball.

For most football players to your point, they don’t play a ton as fresh/soph so you’re projecting how an 18 year old fills out 3 years later. Again, compare to basketball where a lot of even “pretty good” freshman contribute on tournament teams.

Football is also way more about scheme and fit in that scheme than other sports where individual talent shines through most often. You see it all the time when teams switch from 3-4 to 4-3 that certain players objectively good no longer fit a system.
Very very rarely are players missed anymore, doesn’t matter where they play in hs. College coaches don’t care about hs stats either. It’s all how a player projects and most of that comes from measurables and film. A college recruiter can tell in two minutes or less of film if a guy has the talent and is worth their time or not. With things like hudl and the endless number of combines/development camps, that information is readily available. Sure there are still exceptions but they’re fewer and further between.

As far as recruiting class rankings go… i think it’s more for the fans. People read it. It certainly does not guarantee future success. But… not gonna lie it’s still a sign that a program is doing well and has a good chance to continue to do so. Not much more should be taken from them though imo
 
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#180      
If Luke and Leary stay, I’m not sure why we’d want a QB brought in. We have other young guys with lots of potential, too.

Petty, Boyd, I think.
Leary's probably hitting the portal. Just don't see a path to him starting if Luke is back
 
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Leary's probably hitting the portal. Just don't see a path to him starting if Luke is back

If it was me, I would transfer. If he does well, could pose an interesting situation if Illinois would bring him back for his senior year (or another P4 program could be interested). That said, he only should transfer if he gets a starting job guarantee.
 
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Leary's probably hitting the portal. Just don't see a path to him starting if Luke is back
He’d still have a year, and very likely the starter. It’ll give the younger guys after him a chance to develop and give the illiniexperienced successors for years to come. If Illinois can go through more mature qbs every 2-3 years that can be a successful formula. Maybe he knows the grass isn’t always greener and has a great chance for one year or more if Luke gets banged up. 1 year with a team and system you’re intimately familiar with or risk a Hudson card type situation. Yeah he’ll start for two, but how good will those two be vs 1 at Illinois?

No idea what he’ll do. Hope he stays.
 
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It's because Luke is sticking around - most transfer QB's are looking to start
Yes on Luke, of course.
Thinking more of who the backup QB may be.
If we aren't looking for a portal QB, I suggested Leary may be staying as the backup. If we are looking for a QB in the portal, may mean our current backup may be looking for a different team that he can be the principal QB.
 
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If it was me, I would transfer. If he does well, could pose an interesting situation if Illinois would bring him back for his senior year (or another P4 program could be interested). That said, he only should transfer if he gets a starting job guarantee.
What does his future look like though. In this thread, folks are revering the Stanford degree, UI may not be as prestigious, depending on major, but is certainly still significant. Also, Luke does get banged up a lot. Being the solid number 2 is not the worst thing.
 
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I definitely disagree with this. But I don't know your definition of very very rarely or your definition of missed.
Meaning all the recruiters whose livelihoods, often involving multi million dollar salaries, don’t not know about a prospect because he played at a school in division 20 in the middle of a wheat field Kansas. If he has the talent to play at Georgia, they’ll notice. Very very rarely means just that, not often. Less than 1% of hs players will get a scholarship to any d1 school. All of those are, or rather are projected to be, the top guys.
 
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Meaning all the recruiters whose livelihoods, often involving multi million dollar salaries, don’t not know about a prospect because he played at a school in division 20 in the middle of a wheat field Kansas. If he has the talent to play at Georgia, they’ll notice. Very very rarely means just that, not often. Less than 1% of hs players will get a scholarship to any d1 school. All of those are, or rather are projected to be, the top guys.
I don't think you answered my question as to what a miss is.

Was Quinyon Mitchell a miss? Rated the 159th best CB in his 2020 class. An offer from Illinois (not sure how aggressive). Ends up at Toledo. All-American. First round draft choice. Starting as a rookie for the Eagles.
 
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I don't think we are looking for another TE though. Rusk, Arkin, Goda and the 2 signees is enough.
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#193      
I don't think we are looking for another TE though. Rusk, Arkin, Goda and the 2 signees is enough.
I think Goda was a senior, but your point stands. As of now we still have Boyer, Hollinger, and Furney as well.
Side note- what's with Ball State TE's being so productive? They have a good one last year too that portal-ed
Maybe we just see who they offer and try to flip 'em if our targets don't pan out.
 
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