Illini Basketball 2024-2025

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All this hand wringing over shooting percentages, but this is the real key, IMO. As long as we are a team that shoots the ball just okay, we will still win a lot by virtue of having more shots. The difference between a hot-shooting and okay-shooting game for us is winning by 30 points instead of 10 just based on having more looks at the basket.

But when we Maryland/USC ourselves and rebound like garbage, well...
Agree. We are 10th in FGA/gm and 27th in FTA/gm. More is better. :)
 
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The 1983-1984 season, Illinois led the country in combined wins by football and basketball, 10-2 and 28-5, it was a great time to be in the Block I.
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Regular Season Final AP Polls for the 1983-84 school year:

#4 Football (Rose Bowl berth, with a chance to win the Natty -- but lost to UCLA)
#6 Basketball (Elite 8, but lost to Kentucky, playing at Rupp Arena)
 
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Regular Season Final AP Polls for the 1983-84 school year:

#4 Football (Rose Bowl berth, with a chance to win the Natty -- but lost to UCLA)
#6 Basketball (Elite 8, but lost to Kentucky, playing at Rupp Arena)
I thought this was the norm, as I didn't grow up in Illinois. It ruined me for the next 40 years, and I'm glad to say I think we're back to that level of excellence!

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#308      
Which one of you fed Brad the new out of bounds play? I haven't watched it in anything but real time - is the cutter to the hoop predetermined or based on everyone's read of the defenders? From my seat it looks like the latter.
 
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Today (Jan.29) we are #11 per kenpom. Boy, the SEC is a meatgrinder.
 
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I've got a son at that age, so yes. Screening the right guy isn't an issue either. Or lack of effort.

I'm sorry but this is completely asinine.

I'm coaching 9u AAU right now and I have a couple very simple plays (not even out of bounds plays) we use maybe 5 times a game, and that's really it. My experience from 30+ years coaching kids aged 5 thru 18 in basketball is that kids are 12-13 years old before they can actually execute set plays with any consistency whatsoever.

A 2nd grade basketball game in our gyms/leagues/environments not only do not have set plays of any sort, but also:

1. First and foremost here, at that age there is literally no out of bounds rule, hence no 'out of bounds plays'
2. Any violation results in ball at top of the key (again, no 'out of bounds plays' needed)
3. No fouls, necessarily, but if a kid gets gang-tackled (happens often lol) then just regroup everyone and redo
4. Double teams not allowed
5. Pressing is not allowed
6. Screening is not allowed (or should say it doesn't happen, not that it isn't allowed... again kids just don't learn things like that at 6-7 years old)
7. Steals are not alllowed (can't just go up and rip the ball from the ballhandler, as none of them can actually dribble a basketball yet)

That's just a few things off of the top of my head.

Feel free to DM me if you would like and I can send you our league rules, officiating instruction(s) & some other information of that nature and you'll get a better grasp on this.
 
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I'm sorry but this is completely asinine.

I'm coaching 9u AAU right now and I have a couple very simple plays (not even out of bounds plays) we use maybe 5 times a game, and that's really it. My experience from 30+ years coaching kids aged 5 thru 18 in basketball is that kids are 12-13 years old before they can actually execute set plays with any consistency whatsoever.

A 2nd grade basketball game in our gyms/leagues/environments not only do not have set plays of any sort, but also:

1. First and foremost here, at that age there is literally no out of bounds rule, hence no 'out of bounds plays'
2. Any violation results in ball at top of the key (again, no 'out of bounds plays' needed)
3. No fouls, necessarily, but if a kid gets gang-tackled (happens often lol) then just regroup everyone and redo
4. Double teams not allowed
5. Pressing is not allowed
6. Screening is not allowed (or should say it doesn't happen, not that it isn't allowed... again kids just don't learn things like that at 6-7 years old)
7. Steals are not alllowed (can't just go up and rip the ball from the ballhandler, as none of them can actually dribble a basketball yet)

That's just a few things off of the top of my head.

Feel free to DM me if you would like and I can send you our league rules, officiating instruction(s) & some other information of that nature and you'll get a better grasp on this.
I don't really want to get into all of this on the board, so I'll DM, but these are not the rules for the tournaments they're playing in. They can press last 4 mins of each half and everything else is full basketball. The rules you shared are the rules they play here for the rec leagues. I no longer coach my son in basketball, but I know of at least three out of bounds plays they've got. Offensively they've got a couple plays, but many transition baskets happen. However, I'll DM to discuss as I've got no reason what so ever to make this up, because at the end of the day it doesn't matter. College players shouldn't have an issue with screening the wrong man.
 
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I don't really want to get into all of this on the board, so I'll DM, but these are not the rules for the tournaments they're playing in. They can press last 4 mins of each half and everything else is full basketball. The rules you shared are the rules they play here for the rec leagues. I no longer coach my son in basketball, but I know of at least three out of bounds plays they've got. Offensively they've got a couple plays, but many transition baskets happen. However, I'll DM to discuss as I've got no reason what so ever to make this up, because at the end of the day it doesn't matter. College players shouldn't have an issue with screening the wrong man.

Oh I totally agree with your comment re: college players, but 6/7 year olds? Many of them have only been tying their shoes for a year or two and can't tell you what they had for breakfast, let alone remember an entire playbook.
 
#319      
Oh I totally agree with your comment re: college players, but 6/7 year olds? Many of them have only been tying their shoes for a year or two and can't tell you what they had for breakfast, let alone remember an entire playbook.
Tried to DM, but it says your profile is restricted. I just asked my wife what ages the kids are and I guess it's a mix of 2/3 grade and they play in some 4th grade tourneys, so that could be a difference in play rules as well.
 
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Tried to DM, but it says your profile is restricted. I just asked my wife what ages the kids are and I guess it's a mix of 2/3 grade and they play in some 4th grade tourneys, so that could be a difference in play rules as well.

That could be. The kids I'm coaching are 7-9 y/o and we do have a couple set plays, but they're definitely overly simple ones and they can't get those right 80% of the time. I'll say it before someone else does: maybe it's the coach's fault! 😂
 
#321      
Re: Krush Engagement

I have to think Fandom is down across nearly every sport. The internet has had its impact over the course of the last 2 decades. Putting so many entertainment options directly in our hands certainly has a lot to do with it. Constantly being entertained on our devices probably leads to some entertainment fatigue. We simply aren't prone to getting too excited about nearly anything, as many are just constantly stimulated.

I don't know, put the University shrinks on it.
 
#323      
Sorry, I was referring to the under the hoop play where we stack and actually get buckets out of it. Not the sidelines ones.
the idiots out walking around have burned us on those plays before so I was glad to see us finally start to use something like that play now................
 
#324      
That could be. The kids I'm coaching are 7-9 y/o and we do have a couple set plays, but they're definitely overly simple ones and they can't get those right 80% of the time. I'll say it before someone else does: maybe it's the coach's fault! 😂
I also coach travel youth basketball teams (7-9). We teach a basic 5 out and teach back cuts and screens. We also just implemented some DHO as well. Lots of focus on moving the ball and being active off the ball.

The big issue is that it only takes one kid to blow up a play. If they don't screen, or just don't know the play, it's a mad scramble. Even practicing a simple down screen or side screen on a BLOB, someone just flares or stands there. It's better to teach kids how to get open with cuts or angles.

Also, at this age, it's generally a single level of a play with no options or reads. It's really easy to break that down in a timeout and shut it down the rest of the game.

At this age you teach basketball, not plays.

The rules you listed are almost park district level. At 2nd grade you're just trying to get kids to dribble a basketball, much less worry about screens or running plays, so I like the rules for that age group.
 
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