It's his agent, but again when you've had the success Brad has had teams will always be putting out feelers for him.
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I think Shrewsberry could be a top 10 coach in the nation. He's certainly an Indiana guy. In 2023, I would have gotten it for sure.Appreciate all the insights. Just always feels like Indiana wants to make a "splashier" hire than a guy with 1 winning season in 4 years as a head coach... not sure that excites that fanbase.
Also when you say that they could do ALOT worse, for some reason an image of a smiling John Groce pops in my head
I would be a little concerned about his results at Notre Dame. It is not like the ACC is the quality it has been in the past. Mike Brey had definitely dropped off from where he had Notre Dame in the past, but 2 sub .500 seasons, certainly tarnishes Shrewsberry for me.
It depends what jobs open … If UNC and Kansas open … I’ve heard Tennessee could open … I mean Miami has already been back channeling to gauge Brad’s interest …
It may not be so much Brad putting out feelers as it would be them reaching out to Brad … Well mainly his agent …
His agent is always reaching out to other teams … That’s what good agents do …
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
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His agent isn't doing his job if there aren't feelers being put out.
Fact of life in the college coaching world - agents will always test the market.
Agreed. We should want a coach who is highly sought after. I guess my comment was geared more so toward Brad initiating or entertaining any discussion.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
While I know you never say never about things like this, and I know I'm not an insider, but I would have to think Brad would be extremely selective about positions that would even get to the level where his agent would call him and say, "Hey, what do you think?"
Agents will always make and take calls. I'm guessing there are plenty of calls or communication where the agent will take it out of professional courtesy and won't even say anything (or maybe it's in some sort of weekly update).
Of course. It’s a great problem to have. I can’t imagine Miami was back-channeling with Groce, no matter how many moms loved him.
After hearing the Calipari to Texas rumors and the benefits that were discussed on this board last year combined with the potential for a lot of big jobs opening, this coaching carousel might turn out to be very entertaining.
I think the question perhaps should be, if Underwood goes to Whitman and says I've got an offer from Miami, will you match the money, will Whitman say yes?
It was reported that Whitman was getting fed up with the game prior to last season. An Elite 8 can cure a lot, but I'm guessing Whitman is not saying there is a blank check here. At some point he could say, ok congrats, enjoy the new job.
Because of course while Underwood is looking at other schools, Whitman certainly has a list of other coaches.
pruman91
- interviewing new NL's daily....I really really am
sacraig
- The desert
*have done
Wait...what...Tennessee. is because of other dominoes falling
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
Yeah, Barnes is at least 70 if my memory serves. I’d imagine he’s probably year to year based on how he’s feeling at season’s end.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
Playing a little "what-if" here, but if the following jobs are open at the end of the season, how would you currently rank them? I've listed them in alphabetical order to eliminate any sort of initial bias. I have my own thoughts (#1 is likely going to be unanimous or close to it), but I'll share those later.
Indiana
Kansas
Miami
North Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
These seem like the positions that will really kick off the carousel if even two of the five that are not Indiana open since that would open three high-profile positions. If there are others I should add to this list, feel free. But I definitely would not add any positions like Iowa State (coach seems entrenched) or Arizona State (yes, Bobby's likely on a hot seat, but I don't think that one will really move the needle). I initially did not include Miami, but if they are at least reaching out to Underwood through back channels I'll allow it. I also wasn't going to include Kansas, but the one post about Beard looking out for one Big 12 job swayed me to at least add it to the list.
Indiana
Kansas
Miami
North Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
These seem like the positions that will really kick off the carousel if even two of the five that are not Indiana open since that would open three high-profile positions. If there are others I should add to this list, feel free. But I definitely would not add any positions like Iowa State (coach seems entrenched) or Arizona State (yes, Bobby's likely on a hot seat, but I don't think that one will really move the needle). I initially did not include Miami, but if they are at least reaching out to Underwood through back channels I'll allow it. I also wasn't going to include Kansas, but the one post about Beard looking out for one Big 12 job swayed me to at least add it to the list.
Carolina has to be at the top. Followed very closely by Kansas. Then ...
- Indiana
- Texas
- Tennessee
- Miami (ACC, meh, outside of Duke/UNC)
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
aiwpfan
- Springfield, Il
I see some delusional Indiana people think they are going to hire Painter away from Purdue. On the other hand, its Sports Illustrated, so this article was probably written by AI
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
UNC (seems obvious)
KU (also obvious but a harder conference to succeed in - and who would have said that 10-15 years ago)
Tennessee (recent success both with individual school and with conference, hot and popular location right now)
Texas (similar to Tennessee but would be more overshadowed by football)
Miami (my dark horse, easy geography to recruit to and an easier conference to succeed in)
Indiana (possibly my 'they-aren't-a-blue-blood-anymore' bias showing, but think they belong last here - maybe above Miami in a pinch)
Rick will be 71 this summer … He’s got an older team and hopes to make a deep run this March …
I know there was a little talk in the summer that this could be it for him … And his assistants are actively pursuing other jobs … I don’t think that’s a coincidence …
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
Here's how I would rank them:
1) UNC - Tradition, not as tough of a conference, and you could be the guy that finally got the program moved past the Dean Smith tree
2) Kansas - I REALLY thought they would be 1, but the Big 12 is a tough basketball conference.
3) Texas - Lots of resources, SEC ties, and not quite as big of a spotlight because the focus is on football.
4) Tennessee - Behind Texas because I think Texas has a better talent base and would have more NIL money
5) Indiana - Only because the Big Ten is a better conference than the ACC right now and will have more dollars
6) Miami - Access to talent, but I think they'll get lost in the shuffle
I feel like KU and UNC are definitely "Tier 1", Tennessee and Texas are "Tier 2", and Indiana and Miami are "Tier 3". Then it's more of a personal preference of where you put the schools in those three tiers.
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
It's like you were reading my mind, as I wrote that I was thinking you could draw lines between 2/3 and 4/5. Debate and flip-flop the two in each tier as per your own views, but I think the three tiers are pretty obvious. Others I'm sure will have IU higher but 38 years...
Also funny that we both say that Texas hoops would be the lesser sport there, but I say that makes the job less attractive and you say say more (than Tennessee). Agree on NIL levels but how much would make it to basketball?
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I’d be surprised if Self retires anytime soon. Dude can still coach and recruit in the NIL era. But that’s my opinion. He can coach there till he’s in a wheelchair and his toupee falls off. Such a cush job he has.
The only two jobs that feel like a step up from Illinois are UNC and Kansas and I don't know why they would go with a 61 year old Underwood unless other options fall through.
Here's to the clown pants messing up another coaching hire
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