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Too bad for Minny that Nique Clifford can't transfer to play with them next season.
That would be a bad move on Golden's part unless I'm missing something.The big fish …
sacraig
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Odds that could impact us?
Split personality blowouts are always more likely with first year player teams. Taking the upper cuts and responding in the same game is part of the maturing process that can take years. Again, BU will be the Illinois coach as long as he wants to be the Illinois coach and he has earned that right for the foreseeable future.
The same fans that believe BU has the program underperforming are the same ones who make fun of Indiana fans talking about their national championships 40 years ago. The irony.
These are the golden years of Illinois basketball. I hear a lot of they expect Illinois to be in the sweet 16 every year... If you just look at the last 10 seasons in a row, I don't believe a single program has accomplished this.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
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Golden (or maybe his wife after the Title IX allegations???) wants to move back to the West Coast? Because other than that, I have zero idea why he'd want the UCLA job over the Florida job.
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I certainly think Collins can change that and has already started that process.
Heard it suggested today to get Fran to replace Tyler and be the offensive coach and our old HC Bruce to replace Hamer and coach the defense. I would be happy with that myself
Odum for sure going to UVA or is Villanova going to look at him as well?
Because this is the internet I’m gonna pick on the one thing I don’t agree with rather than everything else (which you nailed by the way).
From 2000-2006 our tourney seeding was 4-1-4-4-5-1-4. But maybe those were the platinum years and these are the golden years and you were 100% correct. Either way we aren’t that far off.
illiniswish09
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Agree with your observations/additions. Nothing is a given, but I feel BU is much more capable of maintaining and building on the current "golden" years than Weber was able to build on the "Platinum" years. I do not mean this to be a knock on Weber, I'm thankful for his years.
You left out that he's one of the top ten highest paid coaches in the country: top 10. You also left out that he has some of the best facilities to use to recruit players and assistant coaches to our program and to get his teams ready to play championship level basketball.
Not every Tom, Dick, and Harry of a basketball program offers all of these things to its coach. In return for this creme de la creme of a situation the U of I has given Brad, SOME of our fanbase, including me, expect at least a top sixteen performance yearly and yearly contention for conference titles. While it seems that many here believe that Brad is put-upon for receiving these sorts of expectations from fans like me, others of us believe that this is a reasonable return to expect for the investment our university and alumni have made in our basketball program.
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Nobody expects a sweet sixteen every year. But I think most fans want a national championship before college basketball as we know it no longer exists - however long/short that may be. It's the one thing this program has not achieved in the modern era. It is the stated goal of both JW and BU and the expectations they themselves have set, and I'm overjoyed that they have. Hopefully we beat all odds and get one next month. But each year we fall short of that makes it that much more unlikely. I hope BU can get us there, but I trust JW will put the right person in the position to do it.
Yes, BU has elevated us as a consistently successful, respected program and I think everyone appreciates how difficult that was and is thankful for it. He is a wonderful representative of the university and publicly supports his players. But it is time for the program to take that next step and get over the hump. We haven't been close in 20 years despite having some of the best players to ever play for the program. It's time.
That is what you are hearing I believe.
Illinois is also not a brand name in college bball like Duke, Kansas, KY, Mich St., etc. Sometime, no matter the facilities, etc. some kids will never come to Illinois because of that. Why do you care what BU makes $? It is not coming out of your pocket. If you are investing in 18-year-old kids and the randomness of every bounce of the ball, I'm guessing investments might not be your thing.
Trust me, I have been waiting 45 plus years for a NC and want that as much as anyone here. No coach that you hire can guarantee that you will get a NC. BU has given Illinois what you want, getting to the tourney every year to give it a shot.
Not sure where you see a correlation to each year you don't win the NC means your odds go down the next year.
I'm not confident the game survives long term in its current form. Agree, there is no guarantee with any coach.
Jeepers…where to begin?
Who makes fun of Indiana fans? Well, hopefully most of us. We are supposedly Illinois fans…that’s kind of what we do here, no? I have no real ill will towards them of course. But yeah, I think from my orange and blue vantage point they come off a little delusional. Guilty as charged.
But why are you conflating that with this other narrative that you’re desperately trying to create?
I have no idea why this post of mine…makes you think I expected a Sw16 every single year? I think it should be the goal; sure. But of course it isn’t always gonna happen. I never even said he has the program underperforming. Where are you getting that? You’re manufacturing that.
But apparently if people aren't sufficiently all Rah, rah rah-enough about Brad, every waking second…you feel the need to get all sanctimonious.
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I think Minnesota is the wordt job in the Big. Old facilities, lowest pay for a head coach. Not a fertile recruiting area. NIL is way down the list.
Look at the absolute hell Indiana has been in. Our down period in the late Weber and Groce era is almost nothing compared to a lot of what they’ve gone through and they’ve always been seen as a premier destination for a coach.
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