Illinois 86, Xavier 73 Postgame

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BTM33
Just a fun night

- Might be lost a bit in this...but KJ was really, really good defensively tonight. Some guys hit some tough shots, but he was giving it all he had.

- Tomi is just so skilled for his size, great passer and a really good shooter. Such a terrific asset to have.

- Once will settled in...it was heater time. So glad he and KJ are able to experience a tournament win and hopefully a few more.

- Brad had em ready to play tonight. Glad he is our coach. Period.
 
#178      
aaeismacgychel
BatteredWifeSchwartz said:
I know he stunk on the stat sheet, but Ben had the best +/- with +18. Clearly was doing something on the defensive end that Tre couldn’t match
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Ben did have some good defensive series, but I really have to say again as someone who has worked on engines for sporting based statistics, +/- is not a good predictor for success or performance. Hockey figured this out over a decade ago when they began noticing that all star defensemen would have bear random +/- season to season. They didn't get magically worse or better, but a combination of "puck luck" and performance of other players was the larger reason.

+/- can be a little useful at least in helping to identify lineups that appear to work better than others in a vacuum, but outside of that it's just not a good stat, because it cannot determine who or what is actually actively driving that +/-, who or what is a passive passenger riding the wave, and who is a lead anchor. And yes, sometimes players with great +/- are actually lead weights, but they have 4 teammates who are just going off.

Ben had some standout defensive possessions today but that's where it begins and ends. He struggled hard tonight
 
#186      
AndyKaufmanstutor
jacekpardol said:
The brighter the lights the worse he plays look at his game logs. It’s much more likely that all too typical empty stat line will sink us against UK.
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I don’t who had more minutes between he and Tre White but with the way Tre has played the last eight games or so he should have a lot more minutes than Hum brick house.
 
#187      
phats22
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#191      
SAELION
His defense was good as usual. Cut off drives to the basket. His offense was HORRIBLE. Shot like his hair was on fire, in a bad way.
 
#194      
IllinitripleJ
He has two more years. Ohio kid. Maybe show his skills for one year playing in the Big 10 for the Orange & Blue!
 
#196      
CleverHandle1
SampsonRelpenk said:
I’ll say this for Ben: that one save on a loose ball was key, otherwise…

But that performance was realistically exactly what I wanted to see. PUMPED for Sunday!
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I lose patience with BH because he was specifically brought in here to hit three-pointers, and let's be honest, he's been brutal.

Yes, he has hit a big three here and there or tipped a ball on the offensive end for an Illini rebound, but he's getting paid a lot of money to make three-pointers, and he's been very disappointing. That's a fair criticism even if he's Mr. +100 Stat Man.
 
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