wettsten
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Coaching Carousel (Basketball)
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I think that its only $10 million. I read he has 5 years remaining on his deal, and his buyout is $2 million per year remaining (double if he leaves for another B10 school).
I think the $26 million people mention is the fully guaranteed amount remaining on his contract for the next 5 years which he would be technically owed if fired without cause. Realistically, though, he and any other fired coach is obligated to pursue work to offset the amount owed. Even if he is fired with cause its unlikely the school will pay him more than $10 million. The most likely outcome is they negotiate a buyout in that scenario instead of dealing with the offset over the next 5 years.
Edit: Similarly Oats buyout is $18 million unitl March, 2026 when it drops to $10 million.
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OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
I don’t understand how people can continue to massively overstate buyout amounts. These contracts are public record, and a simple Google search on “(name of coach) buyout” gives plenty of sources with answers.
Nate Oats contract: Salary, buyout, more from Alabama basketball coach's extension
Nate Oats had his contract approved Monday. Here are details on the Alabama basketball coach's salary, buyout and more.
www.tuscaloosanews.com
Brad Underwood contract buyout: What Illinois basketball coach owes if he leaves for another team
Illinois coach Brad Underwood has been mentioned in the Kentucky college basketball coaching vacancy. Here's his salary and buyout:
www.pjstar.com
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Absolutely. Of all coaches, Porter Moser is probably the last one you'd use to argue that salary is a primary motivator. For goodness sakes he bought Tom Rickett's mansion while he was still at Loyola.
He bought a $2.5 million house on a $1.1 million salary. That sounds pretty run-of-the-mill to me.
He also took a massive raise when he went to Oklahoma, despite having a really nice house in Wilmette, which is an awesome place to live. Even wealthy people like money.
Naperville's pretty nice too, I'd say.
Moser at Oklahoma in the SEC is a way more difficult spot than Underwood at Illinois.
I think they are comparable. Oklahoma made the final four in 2002. Illinois has never had a player as good as Blake Griffin. Both teams have had their ups and downs in the last 25 years.
Zorak
- Naperville
Good for him. I didn't think Northwestern had the goods.
I’m not arguing with you , as Moser seems like a good guy and decent coach . not sure of his recruiting chops . but winning the B1G is pretty much as hard as winning the B12 or SEC .
now , I will grant you that recently , the top 6 teams in either of those leagues are maybe a tad better than the top 6 in the B1G
3/4 of that record is in the Big 12. In fact, he took over a program that had been to the tournament in all 3 prior non-Covid seasons, and 7 of the prior 8 non-Covid seasons (including 1 FF and 1 S16), and proceeded to miss the tournament three years straight (all with the Big 12). He has done worse than his predecessor, while I think we can all agree BU has done better than his.
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In a sea of disloyalty from all sides, it's nice to see a coaching relationship still function like this. I don't know if Northwestern will ever have a better coach.
ptgrd23
- orange county CA
As annoying as Chris was as a Duke player he has proven to be a very good college basketball coach. I always thought of NW as the place coaches go to end their careers but Chris has taken them to Big dance multiple times and upset top teams like #1 Purdue and Elite 8 Illini during regular season.. His players play hard and they run a gimmick trap all the time defense that works. I wish our team always played that hard on defense.
I am surprised that a blue blood big dollar school did not notice have offer him the moon to move. I would be scared to see what Chris could do if he got some real talent but I don't think NW will ever by a $$NIL school.
Made me sad to see Kendall Gills kid sign LOI to NW. Hope he excels then enters the portal to play for the Flying Illini redux!
I am surprised that a blue blood big dollar school did not notice have offer him the moon to move. I would be scared to see what Chris could do if he got some real talent but I don't think NW will ever by a $$NIL school.
Made me sad to see Kendall Gills kid sign LOI to NW. Hope he excels then enters the portal to play for the Flying Illini redux!
I just think that the top tier teams in the Big12 and SEC have been significantly better than the best Big10 team in recent years.
The only truly elite Big10 team recently was Purdue last year and then I think the final Ayo/Kofi team was in that realm.
The Kofi/Frazier team that won the big10 title would have been middle of the pack in either of those other conferences.
The Big10 has a lot of solid programs but no truly elite ones imo which shows up in March as the reason the Big10 hasn't been winning championships. The Kaminsky Wisconsin team and 05 Illinois team are two of the very few elite teams in the conference over the last 20 years.
The only truly elite Big10 team recently was Purdue last year and then I think the final Ayo/Kofi team was in that realm.
The Kofi/Frazier team that won the big10 title would have been middle of the pack in either of those other conferences.
The Big10 has a lot of solid programs but no truly elite ones imo which shows up in March as the reason the Big10 hasn't been winning championships. The Kaminsky Wisconsin team and 05 Illinois team are two of the very few elite teams in the conference over the last 20 years.
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
Good reminder that athletic leadership are bad negotiators. Collins is fine, better than NW likely deserves. That said, no way should he be in the top half of B1G paid coaches.
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He's done more with less than any other coach.
Yeah I feel like he should've been the heir to the duke job but I don't think he would relinquish control to too many outside influences including coach emeritus.
IMO, Collins would be a problem for the rest of the B1G if Northwestern ever lowers its admissions standards and elevates its NIL.
You think theres 9 better coaches in the big ten?
Another aspect of this is how bad a job NW is. Sometimes you gotta over pay to keep good talent in less than ideal situations.
Sure- but that doesn't remotely put him in the category to be considered for the Illinois job anytime soon.
he won’t be for long
illini55
- The Villages, FL
Totally disagree. He’s a class act from top to bottom and has raised the bar at NW. I’d be proud to have him coach at Illinois. With our resources and reputation, he’d kill it.
ptgrd23
- orange county CA
Jon Scheyer has done well but how much is just due to ridiculous roster and obscene $NIL. The Coach K coaching tree is pretty bare now that Mike Brey retired from ND. Collins and Scheyer are only successful ones left.
Johnny Dawkins - fired from Stanford (now at UCF has missed NCAA tournament 6 years in row)
Jeff Capel - fired from Oklahoma (now at Pitt always on hot seat)
Tommy Amaker - fired from Michigan (now at Harvard does Ivy even count?)
Some assistant coaches step up without missing beat like Izzo, Tommy Lloyd etc. Other fail - Kyle Neptune (Villanova) , Adrian Autry (Syracuse), Hubert Davis (UNC still has not hit bottom), Travis Steele (Xavier), ...
Well… hoping things aren’t heating up between Brad & A&M and that’s why the recruiting thread has gone silent….
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