Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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Germanboxers
FrankNitty30 said:
I don’t know how any of this is even remotely comparable to Illinois’s situation? Are those Assistants causing (allegedly, whether we like it or not) a rift between players and coaches? If the answer is yes, then we can make these comparisons.
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That’s the key point…If privilege beyond what has been earned is granted to his son, that will almost always result in a toxic environment. Having a relative work for you does not have to cause problems. The fact that he is in the role is a HUGE privilege. If he is given outsized influence as well, I can’t see how you don’t end up with a poor locker room eventually.
 
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Deacon05
BatteredWifeSchwartz said:
Look I love Sarr’s game and I think he will be great next year and a future NBA stud.

HOWEVA, if I had to choose between him and Stojakovic, I’m choosing Stojokvic every single time. He’s knows how the college game is played and he’s comfortable with it. Plus, his style of play will fit BU’s system so well with his mixture of Domask and Riley. He’s going to be phenomenal AND he could be here for multiple years.
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If we can get two years put my money in!
 
#579      
Kendall Gill’s Uncle
the juiceman cometh said:
He was an AC at Arkansas when it was a top 25 team. If his bio is correct any G-League experience came after he was hired as an AC by his daddy (and it looks like it was a summer league gig, not anything full time).


OK, but Taylor's entire coaching resume before getting hired as an AC at UCLA is 2 years as a grad assistant at St. John's. Not a coach. Grad. Assistant. And Nate had zero AC jobs before getting the AC job at UCLA. Which, isn't that something you always say - "Illinois should not be your first AC job!" I imagine UCLA basketball sees itself on a similar level.


Both guys who never had an AC job before the job at Arizona. "Arizona shouldn't be anyone's first AC job!" says Indy Zona Fan in an alternate universe.


And if you want to criticize Tyler or Hamer for the way their performance of the role is going, have at it. But 99% of the criticism I hear is about their age or experience, and how "no other Big Ten/Top 25/P4" team would hire someone with so little experience.

Edit to note: And you have had real legitimate criticism of their performance in there, for sure. I have no problem with that. It's just these exaggerated statements about how no other high level coach would hire a young AC with no prior AC experience at a lower level, or wouldn't hire their own son, which are demonstrably false, that I take issue with. And really the only issue I have is that so many others on here take it at face value without doing any of their own research or even engaging in the slightest bit of skepticism.
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#580      
dainjazoner
if they went to 60% booty ball offense.

I am satisfied with stojakovic, miller, and monsanto.

well within the budget cap. NO EXCUSES
 
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DB11Headband
SVSTORM said:
Can an insider provide a glimpse into the staff’s ideal plan here?

Tell me if I’m off with this:
Rumored to have ~6mil available to spend.
Andrej ~2.5mil
Adam ~1mil

That leaves ~2.5mil to be spent on someone to fill the other guard spot? Any potential names? Or are they viewing this as Adam and Andrej are two starters and we’re going to role with that?
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Remaining budget here is way too high. At this time ~4MM remaining
 
#585      
ChiefGritty
NarrowJ said:
I think the reason Andrej has been so coveted by the staff is because they see a lot of Marcus Domask there... and he is an inch taller, has 3 inches longer wingspan, is a better athlete, and comes from a better conference so it's not quite as much of a step up.

Look at Marcus' trajectory in just a 6 month season, he went from single digit points and 36% shooting against the soft part of the schedule and then averaged 19ppg on near 50% shooting against the toughest part of the schedule after he figured out the step up in competition and fully introduced himself to booty-ball.

Then, on top of that impressive trajectory, when Shannon came back he somehow also became an adept distributor averaging 6 assists over his last 10-12ish games.

The one thing Marcus had that maybe can't be learned is he was actually a tough dude for as preppy-looking as one may find him to be. He would back a guy down, muscle the ball in the basket and then scream YOU CANT FING GUARD ME in their face. If he has some bite like that too, I think he can become Marcus Domask circa Jan-March 2024.... but better 😳😳

(now I made this long post and he will verbal to Louisvillle tomorrow)
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This board's obsession with comparing every white basketball player to Marcus Domask is funny and charming, but rarely more askew than here.

Andrej is longer and much more athletic than Domask, never backs down an opponent to operate out of the post (I think I counted one single post touch in his video), plays very rapidly unlike Domask's slo-mo hesitation game, and in two full seasons in college has fewer than half as many total assists as Domask had in his single season here.

They are absolutely nothing alike.

Fly Illini Fly! said:
Storr is way, way more athletic. Not even close.
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Storr can leap (as can Andrej) but he's really stiff, he's not fluid, that's why I never bought him as an NBA player.
 
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RollChief
NarrowJ said:
Would something like this be interesting to folks here? I need to add some columns... probably need to add minutes played & class/eligibility... but eligibility remaining seemed to be difficult to get a definitive answer on for a lot of players

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B1G Roster Tracker

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EDIT: Also, I threw this together quickly so corrections are encouraged
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I like this a lot. It seems like D-1 experience/age is a north star metric this year, maybe include this as well?

For AdjORtg and AdjDRtg, this might be tricky but if you could put together a weighted average by team using average min/game, this could be a way to put together an early pre-season ranking by finding each team's adjusted efficiency.

I like the summary table because you see some jarring stats that you wouldn't otherwise be exposed to as an Illini fan, like Washington having 1 returning player and 6 incoming freshmen. That place is going to be a daycare center.
 
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NJB Illini
Watched Andrej Stojakovic a fair amount, the kid has the “volume scorer” gift. Sometimes takes too many difficult shots, the staff can help him clean that up. Also think he benefits greatly by the passers on our team. He can be a big time scorer in the Big Ten.

Also, don’t let anyone tell you he isn’t an athlete. He can jump. He also is a good shot blocker. Not necessarily a great defender, but he can defend when he wants.

Really good positional size and great ability to create his own shot. Also think his shooting numbers jump next year, Cal just asked too much of him. Honestly, would be a stretch on the budget but he would be GREAT next to Sarr.
 
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