Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
In terms of keeping Hamer around:
In a make or break season for Brad, he is sticking with his guns. For his sake, it better work out (meaning at least a second weekend appearance at minimum).
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In a make or break season for Brad, he is sticking with his guns. For his sake, it better work out (meaning at least a second weekend appearance at minimum).
I’d hope the plan is forcing a some changes defensively at a minimum.In terms of keeping Hamer around:
In a make or break season for Brad, he is sticking with his guns. For his sake, it better work out (meaning at least a second weekend appearance at minimum).
I honestly don’t know if a single AC could turn next years roster into an ace defensive team. No doubts we can be good, but the athletic limitation of most of these players is going to hinder our defense no matter the scheme.
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
The context that's important is how much Hamer is compensated compared to other B1G and P4 coaches. If him getting lower compensation to his peers, which he is if that number is correct, gives the program more latitude on $$$ to hire another assistant, I'm good with it.
The main context is that Hamer wouldn’t be an assistant coach at any other B1G or P4 program …
My guess is most of us would prefer to see Belichick's girlfriend as an AC vs Hamer
I'm not a huge Hamer fan either but there are other B1G and P4 programs that have hired ACs on equally thin, and perhaps more thin, resumes. I've pointed out specific examples before.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
We aren’t talking about that.
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
And how many of those have F4 aspirations? That is the only context I need.
Does UCLA not have those?
Not talking about comparing his resume to anyone else …
Would any other B1G or P4 program hire Hamer to be an assistant coach / defensive coordinator …
Obviously, Brad sees something in the kid. Like players, coaches develop with time on task and learn from failure. I'm guessing Brad sees some upside here and has convinced Josh of the same.
Who on UCLA staff is being compared to Hamer ?
Nate ? He’s Mick’s guy … It’s no different than what we have with Tyler which we’ve all come to not always like but accept …
So you’re comparing Hamer to Brendyn I assume ? The guy got them Donovan Dent and has them as the leader for two top 10 players in the country for 2026 …
Hamer brings less than ZERO to the recruiting game … He’s a negative … I’ve had recruits tell me they thought he was a weird guy … And as far as coaching … I don’t need to go over that … We’ve seen that for 2+ years …
So what exactly does Hamer bring to the table for $250,000 per year ?
It’s Brad’s staff … And if he wants to roll with Hamer … It’s the wrong decision … And it better f’ing work …
I really don't know. All I know is, it doesn't seem that crazy he was promoted to AC in the first place. If the criticism is specific job performance, I have no problems with critiquing that. The criticism does seem to jump around to his resume sometimes, and that's how I interpreted your comment - sorry if that was a misinterpretation. I personally would like for TA's replacement to be someone who could take over the reigns on defense, and transition Hamer into a supporting role if he's sticking around.
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GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
I'm just talking resumes to get the job in the first place. If the problem is he hasn't been doing his job well, then yeah, he should be replaced. But as far as resumes, does any of these look worse than the others?:
Candidate 1
2018-2019 - Student manager at AAC program
2019-2023 - video coordinator and the Director of Student-Athlete Development, Big Ten program
2023 - promoted to Assistant Coach
Candidate 2
2018 - Coaching associate, NBA team
2019 - Advance scout, NBA team
2019-2021 - video coordinator, Big Ten program
2021-2023 - Assistant to the Head Coach, Big Ten program
2023 - promoted to Assistant Coach
Candidate 3
2017 (est) - 2021 - Assistant Coach at HS and Prep school
2021-2023 - Graduate Assistant, Big East program
2023 - Assistant Coach, Big Ten Program
What? Hamer's getting PAID?
Someone who could take over the reigns on defense you say …
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For me it’s less about resume and more about what they do/don’t bring to the table …
I know I have the privilege of knowing a lot about these coaches and what they do/don’t bring to the table that many others don’t …
But when just looking at resumes without any other details … I can see your point …
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
This is the disconnect. There are a lot of metrics that support Tyler on the staff and that he's really good at his job.
The original poster pointed out a fair comparison - almost every staff has a guy who's the head coach's "guy" or has job security because the head coach supports what he provides, even if there are fair complaints. If the downfall of this program is Hamer, as the lowest-paid assistant on staff, there are much, much bigger problems being ignored.
If this is the case, we need to get someone who can mentor a little bit and also develop players. Our staff is basically two elite recruiters, two young and inexperienced X and O guys, and the team manager. If you move Kwa back and bring in an experienced player developer, the balance shifts back and Hamer can continue to learn.
I'm all for building your talent from within, but you have to have the right dynamic for it. I assume Kwa will shift back, and this whole thing will be resolved soon. It's been said several times already.
mhuml32
Gesture of Northern Aggression
I'm all for putting Kwa back into his original spot and hiring a proven, recruiting-focused assistant. I'm more curious about how the staff plans to recalibrate for prep recruiting. The plan since the start of full-blown portal era has not been great. The program is leaning a lot on Alexander for international connections and one-year deals that require a lot of yearly time-costs to recruit a new roster. Others have figured out how to build a more sustainable roster - that needs to be a priority for long-term roster health.
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Kilgore Trout
- Driftless Region
I had hoped that a condition of signing Andrej Stojakovic would be that his dad Peja (who must be aware enough of the Illini's defensive struggles) would have obtained assurances that a new defensive coordinator would be brought in.
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