Maybe we should do a poll of how many assistant coaching changes do we expect (not want) this offseason. I'm in the 0-1 camp at the moment.
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To be fair, St Mary of the Woods has some big trees inside, but not much outside game. It's pretty easy to make your defense look good against them.
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
I’m not in any way opposed to changes in the staff. In fact, I’m assuming (hoping) that we’ll have at least one with a seasoned pro stepping in for Kwa, who was a last minute replacement for TA. And if Brad feels our best bet is to replace Hamer or Tyler, I’d have no problem with that, either. I want the best possible staff and players that puts us in the greatest position to win a Natty.
My biggest beef is the non-stop hammering of a guy who is just doing the job his boss has told him to do. Is he any good at that job? I don’t know. One person here says he isn’t. Most of the people here are just piling on with no direct knowledge. That gets old very fast and amplifies a narrative that may or may not be true, but becomes the “accepted truth” through mob mentality.
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
I thought making fun of players' or coaches' names wasn't allowed here anymore? Can't keep these thread rules straight.
I got totally hamered.
Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
We do not need direct knowledge of the day-to-day to be able to have strong feelings about members of the coaching staff or to be able to offer criticism. This is the proper thread to have this discourse (though I could go without the name calling of a said coach).
All that we need to know is that the defensive metrics (in addition to the eye test) have seen a very noticeable drop off over the last two seasons, relative to how the offense has performed. Some of that can be attributed to player personnel, but a lot has to fall on the coaching staff. It is fair for us to rightfully criticize the defense that we have seen and to want change at that position (or whoever is in charge of defensive game planning/coaching). That is not piling on but simply stating a fact that the defense has been a mess the last couple of seasons. The defense has to get better if we want to go on a deep run next season and beyond.
However, it is ultimately Brad's call here. If Brad is fine with the defense that is being trotted out, then he will be ultimately judged with the results moving forward.
Geoff was the mob's whipping boy before Hamer and now he deserves a raise?
This completely. It's no coincidence that all those years we underperformed in March, our defense was ranked better than our offense on Kenpom. Our first year of having an offense better than our defense and we reached the Elite Eight (#3 offense and #80 defense).
And the team that beat us in the tournament this year? They (Kentucky) had a better offense and worse defense than us on Kenpom. (10 and 51 vs our 14 and 40)
Fair points.... Let's be honest turnovers on offense cost us the game against Kentucky.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
It's a slightly different flavor of the universal truth of football fandom that every team has no more and no less than one (1) Bad Coordinator in the eyes of its fanbase.
Will Barry Lunney take the baton back from Aaron Henry this year? We shall see.
True, but we committed 11.7 turnovers a game and committed 14 that game, so it's not like that level of turnovers isn't accounted for in our offense ranking.
And the ones that aren't were generally UConn
DeVries hires Rod Clark to join him at Indiana …
A guy that had a ton of interest in coming here and Brad didn’t really push the gas …
A guy that had a ton of interest in coming here and Brad didn’t really push the gas …
LOL, talk about cherry-picking. We were 26th in defensive efficiency in 2023 and 29th in 2022.
40th isn't bad. There are plenty of 2 and 3 seeds in the NCAA tournament with defensive efficiency around 40th.
We had one *bad* season defensively in that timeframe.
EDIT: Juiceman summarized this past year very nicely. Thank you!
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Preston Murphy, Assistant Coach (BK), Alabama Crimson Tide
Preston Murphy is the Assistant Coach for the Alabama Crimson Tide
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Joel Justus, Associate Head Coach (BK), Ohio State Buckeyes
Joel Justus is the Associate Head Coach for the Ohio State Buckeyes
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Joel Goodson
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Preston Murphy, Assistant Coach (BK), Alabama Crimson Tide
Preston Murphy is the Assistant Coach for the Alabama Crimson Tide
Joel Justus, Associate Head Coach (BK), Ohio State Buckeyes
Joel Justus is the Associate Head Coach for the Ohio State Buckeyes
legit good candidates. but only one worked for Brad before...
Also it would be fun to poach a guy from Michigan.
Do we have the bankroll for Preston? Or for Boynton for that matter?Preston Murphy, Assistant Coach (BK), Alabama Crimson Tide
Preston Murphy is the Assistant Coach for the Alabama Crimson Tide
Joel Justus, Associate Head Coach (BK), Ohio State Buckeyes
Joel Justus is the Associate Head Coach for the Ohio State Buckeyes
Didn't realize 26th and 29th are top 25. Nothing I said was wrong. I think the point is I see a trend in our defense not getting better but worse and I don't think I'm alone in that assessment.
I agree we don't have to be top 10 in offense and defense to be a good team. I think the potential to be better at defense was there last few years and it was missed.
P Murph got raised to $675,000 this offseason … And Oats was on his hands and knees to get that done …
Boynton is making $300,000 at Michigan…
TA made right at $700,000 here in total compensation …
And for P Murph … He’s worth OA type money … Trust me … That dude will flat out get dudes …
All that to say … Yeah we got the money … Lol …
ok - great - thanks for confirming. I didn't know the exact figures (thanks for sharing that), but I remember you posting a few months ago about Oats begging for a raise for Murphy and that being one of the reasons Oats had been keeping an eye open for other opportunities. I remember that Murphy got a pretty healthy raise, and in general, I felt like Murphy and possibly Boynton would need to get paid more than TA was for them to come here. I know we're not breaking the bank for our "DC" and "OC," but didn't know what Brad's overall pool of money that he has to work with for AC salaries.
Is this a wish list? Or is there interest on both sides with some of these coaches?
In theory, our defensive philosophy is analytically solid.
1. Take away 3s
2. Minimal help to avoid getting caught in rotations that allow 3s
3. Drop and go over ball screens take away the 3 and protect the basket, encouraging the midrange, which, analytically is the best shot you can force defensively.
4. When necessary, help/double off the non shooters from anywhere.
When you play drop, you make basketball 2 on 2. Pick and roll guys and their defenders. You don’t have to tag off corners and risk kick outs to open shooters because you never leave them.
The problem is, you usually play drop because your guys can’t guard any other way. Love T, but he is a cone on defense. If drop gets killed with him on D, there is no adjustment because he’s too slow to recover. His brother is little quicker so that helps. Mirk is slow.
It’s very clear we recruit to our offensive philosophy and try to make it work defensively. But with the guys we recruited, idk what adjustments look like other than zone, because we are tall, but kinda slow.
The buck stops with Brad, Hamer is the DC, they gotta figure something out when plan A doesn’t work.
1. Take away 3s
2. Minimal help to avoid getting caught in rotations that allow 3s
3. Drop and go over ball screens take away the 3 and protect the basket, encouraging the midrange, which, analytically is the best shot you can force defensively.
4. When necessary, help/double off the non shooters from anywhere.
When you play drop, you make basketball 2 on 2. Pick and roll guys and their defenders. You don’t have to tag off corners and risk kick outs to open shooters because you never leave them.
The problem is, you usually play drop because your guys can’t guard any other way. Love T, but he is a cone on defense. If drop gets killed with him on D, there is no adjustment because he’s too slow to recover. His brother is little quicker so that helps. Mirk is slow.
It’s very clear we recruit to our offensive philosophy and try to make it work defensively. But with the guys we recruited, idk what adjustments look like other than zone, because we are tall, but kinda slow.
The buck stops with Brad, Hamer is the DC, they gotta figure something out when plan A doesn’t work.
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