Coaching Carousel (Basketball)

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#52      
If Hamer is replaced and is just quietly removed from the staff roster, I'll be happy -- no announcement necessary.
I think most of the board is demanding he be publicly paraded through the streets of Champaign Game of Thrones style
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#55      
Tyler spent a lot of time with Gentry when he was here, and with Geoff off and on over the years, and obviously with Brad. Who has been Hamer's mentor?
 
#56      
Will Hamer have an “Im back” type of announcement? Have a few different hats on a table with his parents by his side?
 
#57      
I'm still on the "0-1 coaching changes made this offseason" train, meaning I expect it to be Kwa's replacement, not Hamer.
 
#62      
Unpopular Take Alert!

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Young assistants just like young players will grow and develop. There is obviously something BU sees in Hamer that would make him stick with him. And just maybe he will improve.
he better improve this season, because if we have the same season we had last year, Brad and Hamer are going to be looking for a new job.
 
#63      
Unpopular Take Alert!

Young assistants just like young players will grow and develop. There is obviously something BU sees in Hamer that would make him stick with him. And just maybe he will improve.

The only reason this would be a hot take is because of the large amount of delusion that exists here.

Such as this, for example:

he better improve this season, because if we have the same season we had last year, Brad and Hamer are going to be looking for a new job.

There is absolutely zero precedent for a coach to be fired following a 22-13 season, NCAA 6 seed, win a tournament game while suffering the most injury/illness we've had in recent memory.

Seriously, what can we point to that makes this seem feasible in any shape or form? Kyle Neptune had a winning record at Villanova, but the year he was fired they didn't even win 20 games or make the tournament. Some thought Ben Johnson got a raw deal at Minny but go look and his record was 50-77 there. Kevin Keatts was fired from NC State, but this was after a 12-19 season and aside from the Cinderella F4 run a couple years ago his tenure was really poor there, overall. Maybe you want to point to a guy like Rodney Terry, but he was never going to be the guy at Texas long term and they didn't even win 20 games nor make it out of the first four, went 6-12 in conference, I can go on and on.

There's no precedence to fire a B1G co-winningest head coach over 6 year period, absolutely none, zilch, zero. It just isn't going to happen unless the wheels come off entirely. 22-13 with a 6 seed and a tourney win is not going to result in BU getting fired, 100% bottom line, mic drop, whatever the cool kids are saying nowadays.
 
#64      
The only reason this would be a hot take is because of the large amount of delusion that exists here.

Such as this, for example:



There is absolutely zero precedent for a coach to be fired following a 22-13 season, NCAA 6 seed, win a tournament game while suffering the most injury/illness we've had in recent memory.

Seriously, what can we point to that makes this seem feasible in any shape or form? Kyle Neptune had a winning record at Villanova, but the year he was fired they didn't even win 20 games or make the tournament. Some thought Ben Johnson got a raw deal at Minny but go look and his record was 50-77 there. Kevin Keatts was fired from NC State, but this was after a 12-19 season and aside from the Cinderella F4 run a couple years ago his tenure was really poor there, overall. Maybe you want to point to a guy like Rodney Terry, but he was never going to be the guy at Texas long term and they didn't even win 20 games nor make it out of the first four, went 6-12 in conference, I can go on and on.

There's no precedence to fire a B1G co-winningest head coach over 6 year period, absolutely none, zilch, zero. It just isn't going to happen unless the wheels come off entirely. 22-13 with a 6 seed and a tourney win is not going to result in BU getting fired, 100% bottom line, mic drop, whatever the cool kids are saying nowadays.
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#65      
The only reason this would be a hot take is because of the large amount of delusion that exists here.

Such as this, for example:



There is absolutely zero precedent for a coach to be fired following a 22-13 season, NCAA 6 seed, win a tournament game while suffering the most injury/illness we've had in recent memory.

Seriously, what can we point to that makes this seem feasible in any shape or form? Kyle Neptune had a winning record at Villanova, but the year he was fired they didn't even win 20 games or make the tournament. Some thought Ben Johnson got a raw deal at Minny but go look and his record was 50-77 there. Kevin Keatts was fired from NC State, but this was after a 12-19 season and aside from the Cinderella F4 run a couple years ago his tenure was really poor there, overall. Maybe you want to point to a guy like Rodney Terry, but he was never going to be the guy at Texas long term and they didn't even win 20 games nor make it out of the first four, went 6-12 in conference, I can go on and on.

There's no precedence to fire a B1G co-winningest head coach over 6 year period, absolutely none, zilch, zero. It just isn't going to happen unless the wheels come off entirely. 22-13 with a 6 seed and a tourney win is not going to result in BU getting fired, 100% bottom line, mic drop, whatever the cool kids are saying nowadays.
That's great. How many data points do you have on Josh Whitman, University of Illinois, and Brad Underwood's tenure, with the amount of money put into this program?

Oh, none? So then your opinion has no more validity than mine.
 
#66      
That's great. How many data points do you have on Josh Whitman, University of Illinois, and Brad Underwood's tenure, with the amount of money put into this program?

Oh, none? So then your opinion has no more validity than mine.

Your opinion isn't invalid, its just extremely extremely extremely unlikely that things unfold that way.

I don't seek to invalidate opinions because we are all here and freely able to share said opinions, but I am also here and freely able to disagree with them. :)
 
#67      
That's great. How many data points do you have on Josh Whitman, University of Illinois, and Brad Underwood's tenure, with the amount of money put into this program?

Oh, none? So then your opinion has no more validity than mine.
You are absolutely entitled to your opinion.

Just be aware that your opinion made my eyes roll back so fast and hard it knocked be backwards out of my chair and I am now Andre Curbelo-level concussed.

So yes, you are entitled to your opinion. Your opinion, however, is not entitled to any presumption of validity. My opinion is that your opinion is utterly preposterous.
 
#68      
The only reason this would be a hot take is because of the large amount of delusion that exists here.

Such as this, for example:



There is absolutely zero precedent for a coach to be fired following a 22-13 season, NCAA 6 seed, win a tournament game while suffering the most injury/illness we've had in recent memory.

Seriously, what can we point to that makes this seem feasible in any shape or form? Kyle Neptune had a winning record at Villanova, but the year he was fired they didn't even win 20 games or make the tournament. Some thought Ben Johnson got a raw deal at Minny but go look and his record was 50-77 there. Kevin Keatts was fired from NC State, but this was after a 12-19 season and aside from the Cinderella F4 run a couple years ago his tenure was really poor there, overall. Maybe you want to point to a guy like Rodney Terry, but he was never going to be the guy at Texas long term and they didn't even win 20 games nor make it out of the first four, went 6-12 in conference, I can go on and on.

There's no precedence to fire a B1G co-winningest head coach over 6 year period, absolutely none, zilch, zero. It just isn't going to happen unless the wheels come off entirely. 22-13 with a 6 seed and a tourney win is not going to result in BU getting fired, 100% bottom line, mic drop, whatever the cool kids are saying nowadays.
agree he probably won't be fired, but it is possible that he leaves for another opportunity if he loses the donors and the fanbase. being fired is not the only way a coach may leave a program.
 
#69      
That's great. How many data points do you have on Josh Whitman, University of Illinois, and Brad Underwood's tenure, with the amount of money put into this program?

Oh, none? So then your opinion has no more validity than mine.

I do regret not responding to your question re: data points with Illinois and Josh Whitman firing basketball coaches though. John Groce was fired in March 2017. Go look at his tenure/record at Illinois and compare to Brad.

It’s the data point you were asking about.
 
#70      
You are absolutely entitled to your opinion.

Just be aware that your opinion made my eyes roll back so fast and hard it knocked be backwards out of my chair and I am now Andre Curbelo-level concussed.

So yes, you are entitled to your opinion. Your opinion, however, is not entitled to any presumption of validity. My opinion is that your opinion is utterly preposterous.

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#71      
he better improve this season, because if we have the same season we had last year, Brad and Hamer are going to be looking for a new job.
I mean, we had the #80 defense two seasons ago (the Elite 8 year.) And then it was #40 last season. Maybe it will improve dramatically again this season. I’ll bet it does. I-L-L!
 
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