Bowls/Playoff Selection Sunday

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Am I wrong in thinking that the Big Ten actually got a very favorable playoff seeding in terms of matchups? I could totally see three Big Ten teams in the final 4.
There's plenty of metrics to suggest the Big Ten has 3 of the 4 best teams in college football, and the other just got left out of the playoff, so 3 in the semis would show well.
 
#54      
Looking at the metrics, Notre Dame was the 3rd (Sagarin), 5th (SP+), 3rd (FPI), or 3rd (SRS) best team in college football, and there was somehow no room for them in a 12-team playoff where 5 SEC teams made it, despite there not being a top 5 SEC team in any of those metrics.

That's what's broken.
Those are prediction metrics. Seeding should be based on resume metrics.

Notre Dame’s SOR: 13

Others:

BYU: 9
Alabama: 10
Vanderbilt: 11
Texas: 12
Miami: 14

Miami really shouldn’t have made it. Alabama I’m fine with. BYU is really the team that got screwed the most.
 
#56      
Weird. I 100% disagree...
What's the point of playing a game if the result of that game isn't used as a direct, first comparison?
What's the point in all the other games?

ND lost their first two games by a total of 4 points to the current #12 team and the current #7 team (AP). Both were against ranked opponents, 1 was away. Then they absolutely dominated the rest of their schedule, including a game against the current #16 and current #22.

Miami won it's first game of the season, at home, to the current #10 team, then did not play a single other team currently ranked. In the remaining 11 games thet went 9-2 including losses to two (currently) unranked team.

ND has the better overall resume.
 
#57      
Miami literally lost to Louisville and Virginia. ND has a better resume overall, and it's not particularly close.

Even still, Alabama is the undeserving winner here.
Notre Dame lost both games against legit good teams, beat two slightly above teams, and then beat up a patheric bunch of nobodies. Same thing they do every year. About time they finally got left out of this instead of being given a free pass again.
 
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Those are prediction metrics. Seeding should be based on resume metrics.

Notre Dame’s SOR: 13

Others:

BYU: 9
Alabama: 10
Vanderbilt: 11
Texas: 12
Miami: 14

Miami really shouldn’t have made it. Alabama I’m fine with. BYU is really the team that got screwed the most.
There's more than one resume metric, so don't put all your eggs in one basket. Connelly's resume metric:

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Again, Alabama earned nothing.
 
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Notre Dame lost both games against legit good teams, beat two slightly above teams, and then beat up a patheric bunch of nobodies. Same thing they do every year. About time they finally got left out of this instead of being given a free pass again.
They played more P4 teams than any other team in FBS. They finished with a better ACC record than Miami (and Alabama!).

Alabama gets the free pass for being in the SEC.

Also, of note, the two non-P4 teams they played were 9-2 Navy and 8-4 MWC champ Boise State.
 
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#61      
I have never, and will never, understand why a school would willingly decline playing in a bowl game...
In the CFP and NIL era, this should not be completely surprising, especially with coaching changes. It is not out of reason that they would (Iowa State/Kansas State) struggle to even field a complete team. I would expect tons of opt outs for the transfer portal. It is a signal of the times.

My guess is that these schools polled their teams and came to a realization that they would be gutted too much to even take the field. It sucks as a fan for these programs (and players who are at the end of careers), but we should not act too surprised anymore. Bowl games have become glorified exhibitions (with benefits of extra practices) outside of the CFP. Some of these perks are not of use to teams in complete coaching transitions.
 
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From my understanding, the explanation was that head to head factored in due to it being a side by side comparison with ND and Miami. AKA right next to each other in the rankings - and that we got there because BYU moved below MIAMI due to their loss.

But my question is this: why does BYU move below Miami for losing their championship game when BAMA - with just as poor a performance - doesn't even drop one spot?
 
#64      
The inconsistency with that logic is that Alabama wasn't dropped for losing, but BYU was. Alabama got bumped over ND last week for squeaking by a terrible Auburn team, and then didn't drop from getting blasted by a good Georgia team.
Until ND joins a conference, as long as they are on the bubble, they will not get in. They have to safely be in the top 10. Its just the way it is.
 
#66      
BYU is really the team that got screwed the most.
I was taking about this with my son earlier. A lot of people will be talking about how Alabama, Miami, or Notre Dame got screwed (this was before the final rankings were released), but I said no one‘s going to be talking about how BYU is actually the team that should be in there over wither Miami or ND.
 
#67      
Alabama beat Georgia at Georgia early in the season and played a top 10 schedule.
if they get their injuries back, they'll be in the semi's. Ohio st and Indiana don't want that
match up in the second round.

oh, and are you telling me the selection committee doesn't want ND in the field? the weak
sisters in the bracket will be out soon . (james madison and tulane)
 
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There's more than one resume metric, so don't put all your eggs in one basket. Connelly's resume metric:

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Again, Alabama earned nothing.
What are you talking, earned nothing?

I don’t want to be Alabama homer here, but using FPI, they beat the:

#6, #14, #18, #21, and #25 teams.

5 top 25 wins isn’t “nothing”.

Indiana, who absolutely deserves to be the 1 seed, won just 4 such games.
 
#69      
H2H should be the primary factor. Why even play games otherwise. Football is about winning the game. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Then all games should be played on a neutral field. Who wants that?
 
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What are you talking, earned nothing?

I don’t want to be Alabama homer here, but using FPI, they beat the:

#6, #14, #18, #21, and #25 teams.

5 top 25 wins isn’t “nothing”.

Indiana, who absolutely deserves to be the 1 seed, won just 4 such games.
They're a good, not great team. They're comfortably the 5th best SEC team in a year where there are probably 8 top 25 SEC teams, but none in the top 5.

They also have losses to the #6 (big and recent), #14 and #33 (week 1, but if the Miami-ND counts this much, that should as well).

This is twice the last 3 years Alabama was snuck into the field undeservingly, and the third year everyone argued for them also only for them to be beat by a terrible Michigan team in a bowl game.
 
#73      
They played more P4 teams than any other team in FBS. They finished with a better ACC record than Miami (and Alabama!).

Alabama gets the free pass for being in the SEC.

Also, of note, the two non-P4 teams they played were 9-2 Navy and 8-4 MWC champ Boise State.
Alabama gets two free passes really. One for the SEC and the other for simply being Alabama. It’s one of my top 5 favorite teams to root against.
 
#74      
They're a good, not great team. They're comfortably the 5th best SEC team in a year where there are probably 8 top 25 SEC teams, but none in the top 5.

They also have losses to the #6 (big and recent), #14 and #33 (week 1, but if the Miami-ND counts this much, that should as well).

This is twice the last 3 years Alabama was snuck into the field undeservingly, and the third year everyone argued for them also only for them to be beat by a terrible Michigan team in a bowl game.
Miami has *1* top 25 FPI win all season and so does Notre Dame. Alabama has *5*. BYU has 2.

Give me BYU over Notre Dame and Miami. Leave Alabama.
 
#75      
Are we gonna spend two more hours talking about the uniforms of the playoff teams or are we just going to announce the rest of the bowls? Goddamn…

Even the selection show is a joke
 
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