Pregame: Illinois vs Nebraska, Saturday, December 13th, 3:00pm CT, Peacock/YTTV

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Nope I checked, and it’s out of all B1G teams not just Illinois… I initially thought the same, that it had to be Paul and DJ

Oh and your 2nd post: hmm maybe? But it said 16 years so that year would be < 16? Now I have to go double check anyhow

Edit: nope wasn’t them either… this is gonna bother me now lol
I've gone on an absolute goose chase for this stat... I went through each B1G opener between 2008-2011 and could not find anything where 2 freshmen team mates both scored 20+ points.

Either this stat is an AI hallucination, falls within a different time, or somehow I missed it during that period. Maybe we need to outsource this one to reddit or something.
 
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I've gone on an absolute goose chase for this stat... I went through each B1G opener between 2008-2011 and could not find anything where 2 freshmen team mates both scored 20+ points.

Either this stat is an AI hallucination, falls within a different time, or somehow I missed it during that period. Maybe we need to outsource this one to reddit or something.
Descending into that fetid rabbit hole will not end well. :ROFLMAO:
 
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I've gone on an absolute goose chase for this stat... I went through each B1G opener between 2008-2011 and could not find anything where 2 freshmen team mates both scored 20+ points.

Either this stat is an AI hallucination, falls within a different time, or somehow I missed it during that period. Maybe we need to outsource this one to reddit or something.

Yes! I knew I wasn't going crazy... so this means the real stat is even more impressive (of course barring we both have made a mistake and missed it).. does seem likely someone just asked AI... which I do and have found at least for sports-related things it is wrong A LOT

Descending into that fetid rabbit hole will not end well. :ROFLMAO:

If anyone thinks we argue a lot on here, please go to reddit and have a look 👀
 
#180      
I don't want to quibble with our excellent social media team, but they didn't simply both score 20+ in their BT debuts. They scored 20+ ON THE ROAD in their BT debuts. Let's not hide their lights under a bushel.

.Not to Quibble FURTHER (re-quibble?) but Two freshmen to score 20+ points on the road against a quad one team and also lead the team in rebounds and assists (and maybe taking out the trash and doing the laundry) since...forever....oh yes, in their big ten debut.
 
#181      
Does anyone know who the last pair were to do it? I just went through all of the box scores of B1G teams from the 08-09 & 09-10 seasons to try and find it, but couldn't.
Just guessing Brandon Paul and DJ Richardson...
 
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I've gone on an absolute goose chase for this stat... I went through each B1G opener between 2008-2011 and could not find anything where 2 freshmen team mates both scored 20+ points.

Either this stat is an AI hallucination, falls within a different time, or somehow I missed it during that period. Maybe we need to outsource this one to reddit or something.
I did the same thing!

My only guess (if this stat is real) is it is referencing two teammates who scored 20+ points but not necessarily in the same game. Like if Player A played in his team's Big Ten opener and scored 20+ points, but Player B missed it with an injury or suspension. Then, when Player B made his debut later in the season, he scored 20+ points.

Otherwise, maybe whatever database (or AI) they consulted wasn't populated with such specific information prior to 2009ish 🤷‍♂️
 
#183      
StatMuse is usually great for things like this, but it wasn't able to tell me (maybe just how I worded the question?)

But I thought the response it gave me was somewhat humorous, ha:

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I don't quite understand all this dissing of Ivisic brothers on defense. Sure, they're not Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain, but Tomi in particular is disciplined on D, footwork where it belongs, and he's not easy to back down. Both brothers block shots.
It's not an issue when the other team has a traditional center, but if Nebraska decides to abandon the paint, which like for most centers is the Ivisic comfort zone on defense, that's the problem. Tomi's also probably the slowest player on the floor when facing Nebraska, so we could end up in 5v4 situations just from him not getting back in time.
 
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I've gone on an absolute goose chase for this stat... I went through each B1G opener between 2008-2011 and could not find anything where 2 freshmen team mates both scored 20+ points.

Either this stat is an AI hallucination, falls within a different time, or somehow I missed it during that period. Maybe we need to outsource this one to reddit or something.
I'm not going to sweat it...#FOTN will knock this one out during his lunch hour, just give him time!
 
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Tilly (OSU) had 13 & 8 but efficiency was poor and fouled out
Reibe (UConn) had 8 & 7 in 22 mins
Sherrell (Alabama) couldn't stay on the floor, 4 fouls in 9 minutes
The one game vs ranked opponent where Tomi did not play, Toppin absolutely feasted

Though the overall talent of a Tilly, Reibe or Sherrell is questionable and certainly not at Mast's level

Going back to last season, I recall Tomi really struggling with more traditional bigs like Reese, Malauch, Mark Mitchell, etc. and shined vs stretch bigs like Nate Bittle, Z (vs Arkansas), Igor Milicic Jr, Dawson Garcia, etc.

Has anyone seen Mast run? I think he is slower than Tomi... he was out for a year after a knee surgery... idk... he is exceptionally strong, a very good 3 point shooter, excellent passer, and has some post moves but he is no athlete
 
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Snow is at the worst possible time!

Maybe a quiet arena….hoping for some Northwestern football type of vibes from the players and fans - gotta create your own energy!
 
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Tilly (OSU) had 13 & 8 but efficiency was poor and fouled out
Reibe (UConn) had 8 & 7 in 22 mins
Sherrell (Alabama) couldn't stay on the floor, 4 fouls in 9 minutes
The one game vs ranked opponent where Tomi did not play, Toppin absolutely feasted

Though the overall talent of a Tilly, Reibe or Sherrell is questionable and certainly not at Mast's level

Going back to last season, I recall Tomi really struggling with more traditional bigs like Reese, Malauch, Mark Mitchell, etc. and shined vs stretch bigs like Nate Bittle, Z (vs Arkansas), Igor Milicic Jr, Dawson Garcia, etc.

Has anyone seen Mast run? I think he is slower than Tomi... he was out for a year after a knee surgery... idk... he is exceptionally strong, a very good 3 point shooter, excellent passer, and has some post moves but he is no athlete

Can’t believe I didn’t note Tennessee’s bigs did nothing as well, Estrella’s per 40 scoring numbers are crazy good and he had 4 points on 2-5
 
#194      
Difference is sleepers go on with the full understanding that they are fans providing their opinions about college sports, most often basketball which is their clear favorite. They get a lot of views from Illini and Purdue fans and reasonably those teams get a lot of play for better or worse. If you don’t watch them with the expectation that it’s just like talking hoops with your buddies then you are setting yourself up for disappointment. I don’t think they try to portray themselves as something they aren’t. Unlike many sports journalism outlets do (which they are not).
 
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Has anyone seen Mast run? I think he is slower than Tomi... he was out for a year after a knee surgery... idk... he is exceptionally strong, a very good 3 point shooter, excellent passer, and has some post moves but he is no athlete
It could be because I'm skewed watching his highlights to catch up, but he doesn't appear slower than Tomi.

I set the time in this video to when he scores and runs across the court, he initially takes it a bit slow to celebrate but then picks up speed.

 
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