Illinois 91, Missouri 48 Postgame

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He was extremely complimentary of Illinois the entire game. Not sure what was annoying about him.

Me either, I didn't watch on TV because I was at the game... just going by what others have said
 
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I believe we had a Jake + Ben lineup during good stretch in the Texas Tech game as well as the Tennessee game in the 2nd half

Would like to see some more analysis on this, its something we've had to go to a few times... while its been successful, it certainly shouldn't be something we are trying to line up deliberately
Sleepers did an excellent podcast about this before the Missouri game. Offensively our most efficient lineup has Keaton, Mirk, and Jake Davis in it. Ben can be interchanged for Jake pretty easily as they offer the same skillset offensively. Jake and Ben aren't great off the dribble like Andrej and Kylan are so the ball sticks way less when they are in the game. Missouri also went to a bit of zone when both Jake and Ben were on the floor which was mind blowing to me because it allowed for a couple of easy three point attempts especially when Jake, Ben, and Keaton were hitting like they were last night.
 
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Up to 9 in KenPom, but more importantly, that moved our overall adjusted efficiency margin to +29.40.

For context, TJs Elite 8 team ended at +24.53. Our efficiency this year would have been good enough for a 1 seed that year.

Even our 1 seed Ayo team ended the season at +29.06, so we’re entering “Brad’s best team ever” territory.
There has been a little griping about the emphasis on efficiency metrics lately as well as some skepticism about their value.

You can't game the system with efficiency metrics. Bad teams can't fake their way to efficiency and good teams aren't inefficient.

As fans, these services are great. Not because we see them as the end goal but because they allow us to understand, ok how good are we really? How do we project?

For additional context, in the last 10 years that have had a tournament, there have been 34 teams with a KP NetRtg above 29. Here are their tournament results:

19 Final Fours
8 Elite Eights
2 Sweet 16s
4 second rounds 😬
1 first round

Pretty good odds that a team as efficient as ours will at least make the second weekend. IF we can maintain this level of efficiency.

*There are 9 teams right now with a NetRtg above 29. That's a TON. The analytics have revolutionized the game and the metrics are getting inflated because of it. So, a rating of 29+ isn't quite what it was 10 or even 5 years ago but it's still really really good.
 
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He’s been doing more and more lately … Man on a mission … Hope we can get that kid back …

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Unpopular opinion... but I'd rather have Ty for the entirety of the 2028 season than for one month in 2026, not even at 100%.

Either way, him putting that work in to get back is so contrary to the Tucker Devries/Rodney Rice of the world.
 
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Pepe he gave mizzou a TO that lead to 2 points immediately upon his entry into the game. He had a nice dish for an open 3 after the TO.
Petro's playing time is all on him to figure out.
It was a 43 point victory. A perfect opportunity to give him some run if you don't necessarily trust him.

Turnovers happen. Nobody is ever going to get into a rhythm or play with any confidence if they get pulled after every turnover.

Maybe Petrovic never figures it out this year but you are going to need a guard to give you some minutes off the bench at some point so why not see if he can settle in a game you're up a ton so you could potentially use him going forward and if he doesn't then see what you have in Lee.
 
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Honestly just can’t believe how good that kid is

Bonus points for playing a style that’s very appealing as well
I know everyone will look at the shooting, scoring, etc... to me literally the three most important things with him: 1) doesn’t turn the ball over 2) one of your best rebounders 3) one of your best defenders. As the PG, that ITSELF is enough value to keep you on the court every game, regardless of the game to game variance of shot making.

Where this differs from KJ a year ago (which I know everyone's skeptical of) is that two of the three aspects I mentioned were not nearly up to par with what we've seen from Wagler (turnovers and defense).

Now add in the scoring, shot making, shooting 43% from three.... now you've got one of the best players in the conference.
 
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Unpopular opinion... but I'd rather have Ty for the entirety of the 2028 season than for one month in 2026, not even at 100%.

Either way, him putting that work in to get back is so contrary to the Tucker Devries/Rodney Rice of the world.
Could be wrong, but I believe the only way you can get a second redshirt (medical redshirt) is if you miss two seasons due to injury.

If you miss one season due to a regular redshirt and the next due to injury, you don’t qualify for medical redshirt.
 
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I love the University of Illinois Fighting Illini....I really really really do..........
 
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I know everyone will look at the shooting, scoring, etc... to me literally the three most important things with him: 1) doesn’t turn the ball over 2) one of your best rebounders 3) one of your best defenders. As the PG, that ITSELF is enough value to keep you on the court every game, regardless of the game to game variance of shot making.

Where this differs from KJ a year ago (which I know everyone's skeptical of) is that two of the three aspects I mentioned were not nearly up to par with what we've seen from Wagler (turnovers and defense).

Now add in the scoring, shot making, shooting 43% from three.... now you've got one of the best players in the conference.
This 100%.

And it’s extra impressive (and rare) to check all three boxes so effectively at such an early age.
 
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Tomi has tremendous skills. All I was saying is Big Z needs to play more than he has thus far. He has additional length to disrupt in the paint and seems to play with more emotion/passion/fire. Great teams play with emotion and passion. Like I've said here on several occasions. I think we're a thick big paint protector/rebounder away from being a Final 4 team. If Big Z can help fill that role in a different way b/c of this length/height it will come in very handy. This is where we miss Morez. I just think Big Z is the closest thing we have to a paint/rim protecting big man who can make the kind of difference that could give us a deep run. He doesn't have to be our best or second best player or anything like that. He just needs to make the opposing offenses think twice about how they'll get their shot off in and near the paint, block a few, and gather rebounds.
But what if his playing time why he is displaying those qualities now?
 
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I just thought it was me, but I keep thinking he's finishing a thought and he just keeps going....
I'm hoping with experience he improves. I think he's trying very hard to replace LaTulip and he'd rather say too much and provide value than say too little and provide no value.
 
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I'm hoping with experience he improves. I think he's trying very hard to replace LaTulip and he'd rather say too much and provide value than say too little and provide no value.
Yeah, I actually like what he brings. And agree that he'll likely improve with experience. It's just something I've noticed more and more each time I watch.
 
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