I think everyone would have chalked it up as another really savvy play by purdue's best player rather than "the dumbest play of the entire season". Stojakovic was chasing him around the whole second half and he'd just nailed a crazy fade away three. I dont think Andrej had such a bad game as some of the rest of you given his assignment.
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Good observation IMO. Perhaps the biggest shot of the game then, is Keaton's first three after halftime. Follow it up with Jake's put-back and...
"Again? Enough of this stuff, back to the regular defense" - Purdue lizard brain
(I'm not calling Purdue's coaches reptiles here, just saying there was probably an internal visceral reaction to our still being hot after the break.)
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Haven't made one post in this thread, but I've read every single one.
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for celebrating the win on here together. Many times the most popular post game threads come after a loss, while wins just have a few pages. And I get it, lots of people use online message boards to vent. But it's really awesome and refreshing to watch a win that is so amazing it makes everyone to celebrate it together.
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for celebrating the win on here together. Many times the most popular post game threads come after a loss, while wins just have a few pages. And I get it, lots of people use online message boards to vent. But it's really awesome and refreshing to watch a win that is so amazing it makes everyone to celebrate it together.
In the BU post game presser, Brad mentioned Tyler's offense. I don't recall him saying that in a press conference before. Of course Tyler is listed as offensive coordinator. And we all know that. But I'm not sure i"ve heard Brad praising Tyler's offense to the press. Yea this game was quite an offensive clinic. Everyone was dialed in. Impressive performance.
When we pay like that, we are really hard to beat.
Pump the brakes. The TSJ run won us a Big Ten Tournament, got us to the Sweet 16 where his start versus Iowa State was another gem......then UCONN, who wasn't going to lose any game under any circumstance.
Keaton was unbelievable, but I'm pretty sure Shannon put up a 40 burger in a BTT game. Let's not let recency bias get too carried away. TSJ was legendary at the end of the year.
BTT
28
40
34
1st Rd
26
2nd Rd
30
Sweet 16
29
If you want to go back further than that...add a 28, 31, 27, 35, 29, 23 and 25 on top.
Have to go with TJ here. Love ya Keaton, but you have to go down this path to be legendary. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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Yeah, that might be a fair point.
Wagler last 12 games:
Compared to TSJ's best 12 game stretch:
Both are phenomenal. Terrance included the postseason, which may be the biggest separator. Plus those point totals are absurd from a game-to-game standpoint. Wagler though has more rebounds and assists, and certainly has the best single performance.
For Keaton, I do think there's something to be said for we're not even into February yet. It's only the beginning in terms of the legacy he could leave over the next two months.
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100% agreed. It's still only February, so the opportunity for magic is still there.
TJ, after what he went through that year and to perform how he did, when he did it..... he'll always hold a special place in my heart. Admittedly, I have a huge bias. Loved that kid for us.
I mean, why not actually just put up the whole comparison and let the voters decide?!
It's a tough one. Game Score, a metric that purports to tell you how good a player played, has them tied! Looking at the more traditional metrics, TSJ scored more, but Wagler scored more efficiently. I mean, the scoring efficiency here is just mind boggling. 47% from 3 on volume! Woah. And he's got more rebounds and assists. To TSJ's credit, he clearly was more productive on defense, with double the steals and a couple more blocks. And they're even on turnovers.
Like I said, really tough one. Obviously, if we're talking about the significance of the games, it is important that TSJ's 12-game stretch coincided with the conference tourney and Tournament. But I think we're actually just talking about how good the performances were, and in that case I think Keaton ekes out the win. And yeah, I love TSJ and that 40-pt game was amazing, but 40 on 22 shots against last year's Nebraska on a neutral court is not as impressive as 46 on 17 shots against this year's Purdue at Mackey. And that's not a knock.
I admit that in prior years i would roll my eyes when that "0440" guy would post that poor offense was due to execution and not the scheme as the players had been told what to do. Now I see the light. Kudos to the coaching staff!
Interestingly, both shot 50% from the floor during those 12 game stints. Each also got 4 rebounds per game.
TJ averaged 27PPG vs Keaton 20PPG.
Keaton 5.5 asst per game, TJ 2.0 APG.
Keaton 1.6 TO/gm, TJ 2.0 TO/gm
Steals: TJ 1.3 per game, Keaton 0.6 per game.
Blocks: TJ 0.4 per game, Keaton 0.25 per game.
Wagler better FT% and 3pt%.
That entire body of work would lead to the net value being VERY similar.
Oh, and Keaton is 18, and TJ was a 1st round pick.
Both runs are amazing. Soooo glad Keaton is an Illini!
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He also has realized that he can't bring the ball up on a fast break all the way down the floor. The last several times he has had that opportunity he has slowed down and gave the ball to one of our gaurds and not pressed the issue like he did earlier in the year which usually ended up in a turnover. He appears to be very coachable
And we still have Ayo, Kofi, Domask, Trent from this decade alone. Not to mention two first round picks in Riley and KJ. The amount of talent we’ve assembled over the past few years is simply incredible.
Yes I did to the outcome and spread. If only I went with 88 instead of 85
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Hmm. I have noticed that Painter does flick his tongue out a lot, so to be safe maybe someone should look into this…
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Seppuku can go do that.
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Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
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We're kind of having a bad day of misspellings. I was guilty of one earlier today as well.
After re-watching all these video breakdowns of the last few minutes and those dagger 3's, a few things stood out to me:
1. The Purdue fans in utter disbelief
2. Tyler signaling the screener to target Cluff even when Purdue pre-switched
3. Fletch acting as cool as a cucumber on the bench
To be clear, that was my reaction during the game, not just in hindsight. I'm not advocating for this as a strategic game plan, but there are certain situations where I don't mind this type of foul. I realize it stopped the clock, but it also gave the Illinois players a minute to regroup. If they let him take that three, I feel confident he hits it with the rhythm he was in and that 1 point lead becomes awfully uncomfortable. At least there was the added pressure of making three free throws in a row on fatigued legs. Definitely would not be the dumbest play of the season.
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