FeelYourPaign
- So Cal
Where are these odds from? I only ask because it sounds like they are more aware and informed (insightful) than the AP poll. Maybe the poll should be replaced by Vegas
Illinois #10 in 2/16 AP Poll
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I got them here:
College Basketball National Championship Odds - Latest Odds To Win | RotoWire
Get the latest odds to win the college basketball National Championship. Find the latest prices and the best odds to win the NCAAB National Title.
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They probably incorporate some loose assumptions around how teams will be seeded, but other than that I have to believe they're a better predictor of future team ability than anything else. Based on these, if seeding ends up like BracketMatrix has it today, I hope we get UCONN as our 1, and Gonzaga (or Nebraska if allowed) as our 3.
The betting lines are a much better indicator than any polls or statistical formulas.I got them here:
College Basketball National Championship Odds - Latest Odds To Win | RotoWire
Get the latest odds to win the college basketball National Championship. Find the latest prices and the best odds to win the NCAAB National Title.
They probably incorporate some loose assumptions around how teams will be seeded, but other than that I have to believe they're a better predictor of future team ability than anything else. Based on these, if seeding ends up like BracketMatrix has it today, I hope we get UCONN as our 1, and Gonzaga (or Nebraska if allowed) as our 3.
Wow! Cool to know. Care to elaborate?
Wow! Cool to know. Care to elaborate?
I always root against ND first and Michigan second, unless I can justify how it helps the Illini for them to win. Since Duke also registers high on the disdain meter, currently ranked ahead of us, and a MI loss does not impact the BIG standings, I would rather play #1 ranked MI. Therefore, as diificult as it is, Michigan.
Agree with the first sentence. Not so sure about the second. Michigan is firmly the number one overall seed right now and it would take a whole lot to move them down 4 spots this late in the year.
In this scenario, would their 11 Q1 wins and four losses to NET #33 Wisconsin, #8 Purdue, #2 Duke, and #4 Illinois be worse than our 9 Q1 wins and five losses to #21 Alabama, #10 UConn, #11 Nebraska, #15 MSU, and #33 Wisconsin?
If they also lose to Minnesota, we might have a chance.
I agree with your order of hatred, therefore will be rooting for Purdue.
A Purdue win does impact the BIG standings though. A Purdue win means we control our fate for a share of the BIG if we win out.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Put the non-Miami voters in jail. Jail!
Joe Cook is a moron
You have just insulted all of us who identify as being a moron
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
Jay Bilas sure likes Illinois.
www.espn.com
The Bilas Index: The best 68 men's basketball teams in 2025-26
With a month until Selection Sunday, Bilas reveals which teams he has at the top of the pecking order.
There's a strong coastal bias that is against us. Particularly from the West Coast. Furthermore, the Michigan writer highlights why no one likes Michigan regardless of sport. They always think they're superior to everyone else within the conference and other folks are just fodder. They therefore misinterpret earned disdain for folks wanting to have a "rivalry" with them.
Well, yes, they're a better predictor of outcomes. But based on this: https://www.thepredictiontracker.com/bbresults.php, some ranking systems get pretty close (some may even beat the line in a given year, though that isn't stable).
But tournament outcomes aren't the same as ability. They can be influenced by seeding (blue-bloods would get a boost in betting markets if they're expected to get a favorable seed), fan base (teams with fans that travel will give them an advantage), styles of play that are conducive to a championship (i.e. "balanced" teams fare better than extremely offensive/defensive teams), not to mention things like biased officials or fixes.
Seth Davis has us #4.
A guy from Jackson State, Joe Cook, has us 18th.
A guy from Jackson State, Joe Cook, has us 18th.
Seth Davis is my new favorite pollster.
1m4tr
Cliffmas
Shouldn't head to head matter? Remember, in 2021 Michigan only had 3 Ls and Illinois had 6 Ls.
Illinois was the #3 overall seed ahead of Michigan.
I'm not sure if it does or if it should. Maybe it's used as a tie breaker in some instances?
In 2021 Illinois was 12-6 in Q1 and Michigan was 10-4 so I would guess that is probably the main reason why we got the nod for the 3rd 1 seed ahead of Michigan. Although our drubbing of them in Ann Arbor probably didn't hurt.
Mainly though, I just don't think we'll actually get close enough to Michigan's overall body of work for our head to head result to matter. Could be wrong. Hope I am.
BillyBob1
- Champaign
This is the game that you root for the meteor:
I was going to say this, but I didn’t have the fancy video!!
Goillinikobd
- Southeastern US
All I know is that right now, putting the experts aside, and looking at a single game, not the Natty odds Wisky scares me more than PU or Nebby
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