Games Thread

#178      
Piotyr
The back half of the Big East is bad. DePaul has scored 4 points in 6 minutes of the second half and trails by just 5.
 
#180      
PNWIllini
UW woke up and claimed a win. They remain capable of a run. I don’t think they will do one however.

IU losing is comedy, but all it does is put a B1G bid into play and open a door for the SEC. Which is never a good thing.
 
#183      
Todd99
NarrowJ said:
There was some article I recall 2 years ago when NC State won 5 games in 5 days to win the ACC tourney that noted how insane that feat was because bye teams facing team that played the prior day had like a 90+% winning percentage over the prior 10 years in ACC play (now, the bye teams are pretty much always the better team so take that into consideration as well, but 92% is very high... also this was just ACC so data was limited to that).
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The ACC was only eight teams back then, so they only had to win three games (in three days) to win the tournament. However, two of those three teams were #5 North Carolina (Jordan, Perkins) and #2 Virgina (Ralph Sampson). Incidentally, they beat Virginia again in the Elite Eight after #6 UNLV in the second round, all on the way to knocking off #1 Houston in the final. I wonder how many times a team has went on an upset run like that over the last month of a season?
 
#184      
wc_illini
Todd99 said:
The ACC was only eight teams back then, so they only had to win three games (in three days) to win the tournament. However, two of those three teams were #5 North Carolina (Jordan, Perkins) and #2 Virgina (Ralph Sampson). Incidentally, they beat Virginia again in the Elite Eight after #6 UNLV in the second round, all on the way to knocking off #1 Houston in the final. I wonder how many times a team has went on an upset run like that over the last month of a season?
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Think they're talking about the more recent run:
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#186      
aaeismacgychel
NarrowJ said:
There was some article I recall 2 years ago when NC State won 5 games in 5 days to win the ACC tourney that noted how insane that feat was because bye teams facing team that played the prior day had like a 90+% winning percentage over the prior 10 years in ACC play (now, the bye teams are pretty much always the better team so take that into consideration as well, but 92% is very high... also this was just ACC so data was limited to that).
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So I looked into it for the B10 based on change in format and definitely a lot closer, where it's closer to the team on the bye being a 2:1 favorite over the team who played the night before:

Record for teams coming off a bye vs teams that played the night before (Overall: 76-40, 0.655WP)
18 Team: (1-1: 0.500WP)
2026: 1-1 (in progress)

14 Team: (39-21: 0.650WP)
2025: 5-1
2024: 5-1
2023: 3-3
2022: 2-4
2021: 5-1
2020:COVID
2019: 4-2
2018: 3-3
2017: 4-2
2016: 3-3
2015: 5-1

12 Team: (11-1: 0.917WP)
2014: 3-1
2013: 4-0
2012: 4-0

11 Team: (25-17: 0.595WP)
2011: 1-2
2010: 2-1
2009: 3-0
2008: 1-2
2007: 2-1
2006: 2-1
2005: 2-1
2004: 3-0
2003: 1-2
2002: 2-1
2001: 1-2
2000: 1-2
1999: 2-1
1998: 2-1
 
#188      
aaeismacgychel
Ok, well I didn't finish 6-0 thru the first 6 games (Thanks Minnesota) but I'll take 5-1. My thoughts on the games today:

Iowa over OSU
Wisconsin over Washington
Purdue over Northwestern
UCLA over Minnesota Rutgers

Picking against OSU in the BTT is generally unwise as they have had a lot of historical success in these tournaments, and I also think they have a better team than Iowa this year. But gut feel is Iowa comes out hot and OSU has to try playing catch up for much of the game. I've got Iowa holding on by the skin of their teeth.

The other 3 games I have as pure chalk. I have a hard time seeing the dog win any of those even though UCLA away from LA and Purdue are both hard to trust right now. Wisconsin though should do Wisconsin BTT things to Washington. I'd be surprised if this wasn't a double digit win for them.
 
#189      
Dan
Big Ten Tournament Third Round

Ohio State vs Iowa, 11:00am CT, BTN

Wisconsin vs Washington, 1:30pm CT, BTN

Purdue vs Northwestern, 5:30pm CT, BTN

UCLA vs Rutgers, 8:00pm CT, BTN
 
#190      
BrownTown
Anybody else talk themself into Washington over Wisconsin today?

Call me crazy but I'm not so sure that the talent level is very different between the 2 teams. (

Be interesting to see if Winter plays... Wisconsin could be vulnerable if they get some front court foul trouble. Steinbach could apply some pressure.

Wisconsin beat UW pretty bad the last outing but when you have a bench player go nuclear and hit 9 3s...
 
#193      
Mr. Roberts
aaeismacgychel said:
LOL@INDIANA. Can you imagine walking up to Bobby Knight in the 80s and telling him that if they played a bracket style tournament in the B10 to determine a champion each season that it would be 29 years and counting and Indiana still wouldn't win a banner and be in the finals only once? Or telling their fanbase that?

Hell, I remember Indiana fans when the BTT was first instituted and all the smack they were talking about how they were going to own it, hahaha. Good times.
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Well, after all, what can you expect from a football school.
 
#194      
aaeismacgychel
Today's BTT Factoids:

1. An OSU win today would temporarily allow them to usurp MSU as having the highest win percentage in BTT history.

2. Alternatively, prior to yesterday, there were only 4 teams (MSU, OSU, Illinois, and Wisconsin) who had a historical winning record in BTT play. If Iowa beats OSU today, they become the 5th team with a winning record (sitting at .500 now)

3. Former Pac10 teams are a combined 3-5 in the BTT. They were a combined 110-87 in the Pac10 Tourney. Maryland is 7-11 in the BTT, Rutgers is 6-10, Nebraska is 6-13. The BTT has not been kind to the expansion teams. Does that continue today? We'll see with Washington, UCLA, and Rutgers...
 
#195      
Grandpa
aaeismacgychel said:
So I looked into it for the B10 based on change in format and definitely a lot closer, where it's closer to the team on the bye being a 2:1 favorite over the team who played the night before:

Record for teams coming off a bye vs teams that played the night before (Overall: 76-40, 0.655WP)
18 Team: (1-1: 0.500WP)
2026: 1-1 (in progress)

14 Team: (39-21: 0.650WP)
2025: 5-1
2024: 5-1
2023: 3-3
2022: 2-4
2021: 5-1
2020:COVID
2019: 4-2
2018: 3-3
2017: 4-2
2016: 3-3
2015: 5-1

12 Team: (11-1: 0.917WP)
2014: 3-1
2013: 4-0
2012: 4-0

11 Team: (25-17: 0.595WP)
2011: 1-2
2010: 2-1
2009: 3-0
2008: 1-2
2007: 2-1
2006: 2-1
2005: 2-1
2004: 3-0
2003: 1-2
2002: 2-1
2001: 1-2
2000: 1-2
1999: 2-1
1998: 2-1
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I wonder how it has played out for teams that have played more games that the other later in the BTT? Such as team A has played 2 games and team B has only played one.
 
#196      
altgeld88
aaeismacgychel said:
LOL@INDIANA. Can you imagine walking up to Bobby Knight in the 80s and telling him that if they played a bracket style tournament in the B10 to determine a champion each season that it would be 29 years and counting and Indiana still wouldn't win a banner and be in the finals only once? Or telling their fanbase that?

Hell, I remember Indiana fans when the BTT was first instituted and all the smack they were talking about how they were going to own it, hahaha. Good times.
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Indiana is on its seventh coach in 26 seasons since the IU admin canned Knight. That includes five coaches in 11 seasons, and 15 seasons between Mike Davis and Tom Crean.

I savor their struggles. Hope these continue.
 
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