RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Replace “Scheyer” with “Underwood” and I’d swear these posts were from the Loyalty board two weeks ago. 
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RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
But my favorite post from the Duke message board:
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Who’s gonna call their dad?
I've said this a million times when our fans our fans meltdown for EVERY game. Thd fingers are always pointed somewhere. The coach, the refs, the waterboy......Replace “Scheyer” with “Underwood” and I’d swear these posts were from the Loyalty board two weeks ago.
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That's exactly what our board looks like.
Sounds like he may be a small baby.
I too don’t understand the people who are killing Boozer. It’s a casual, coach-fan perspective.
He catches it at 7 seconds and there’s two UConn players immediately coming at him. In a trap situation at the end of game - when there’s two guys on you, you need to pass the ball. That’s kindergarten basketball. If you don’t, they’ll look to take your ball.
The problem, IMO, is that his teammates were so far back which made the pass too tough. A lot of it is bad luck.
He didn't need to pass it all. Duke got the ball with 10 seconds left. There wasn't even the possibility of a 10 second call. All he had to do was hold it and get fouled.
Because they were up two.
If he holds it you have free throws and 5-6 seconds left. The game is over if he hits 2, Only hits 1 and you still are looking for a miracle shot just to tie.
Instead he tried to throw a pass over the top of 2 defenders and it got tipped and stolen which was basically the only way they could have lost in regulation barring an 80% free throw shooter missing the front end and UConn hitting a crazy 3.
Duke also had a timeout. The name of the game there is simply don't turn the ball over and he did.
SuperMetroid
- Evanston
New Scheyer Face just dropped
Chad Fleck
- Eureka, IL
Huh, and here I was agreeing with him all the time.
Which one is calling dad?
Here’s what Boozer sees:
There’s two UConn players coming to trap him. Up ahead he sees a wide open teammate - if the ball gets there, the game is 100% over.
At the end of the game against full court press, when you’re trapped, you need to pass the ball. What makes you think nothing will happen, they won’t try and pry the ball loose, and just award you a foul? A whole lot can go wrong in that situation as well.
In contrary, he sees a wide open teammate and if he hits him the game is over.
If we’re gonna play “you shouldn’t pass the ball,” then why did Sarr pass it to Boozer to begin with?
Why are people saying Boozer made a major bonehead play, he didn't even need to cross halfcourt? The ball was inbounds with 10 seconds left. Ok cool call a 10 second violation, UConn gets the ball with 0 seconds left. Now it's possible they could have called a 5 second if he just held it there. But that would have been 5 seconds UConn had to swarm him and not foul. He could have held it for 4 or even 3 seconds and then thrown a bad pass and UConn wouldn't have had time. He could have made pass fake to get the defense to move than made a simple pass. He could have just dribbled the ball, he had room. And again, he could have just bent over and covered the ball up.
He panicked and made the worst possible decision. He jumped and threw into 2 guys. Yes Duke did have 2 guys open deep, he threw to the one that made the pass much more difficult than the guy who basically had a half of the court to himself. That said, Evans I think should have come up to get the ball.
So yes, he did everything wrong. He wasn't under control, he didn't seem to know the situation, he left his feet, and he didn't make a good pass. He had a timeout left too.
He panicked and made the worst possible decision. He jumped and threw into 2 guys. Yes Duke did have 2 guys open deep, he threw to the one that made the pass much more difficult than the guy who basically had a half of the court to himself. That said, Evans I think should have come up to get the ball.
So yes, he did everything wrong. He wasn't under control, he didn't seem to know the situation, he left his feet, and he didn't make a good pass. He had a timeout left too.
There isn’t a 5 second call in the backcourt so yeah they really messed it up.
Chad Fleck
- Eureka, IL
There is no 5 second violation in the back court.
FWIW, Scheyer’s telling him to pass it ahead (which is exactly what he did):
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
Because you have to go understand the situation. Duke didn’t even have to get the ball in the frontcourt. They inbounded with 10.0 seconds left. They didn’t have to advance the ball there.
Boozer didn’t have to panic or rush anything. When you see two guys coming at you, either pass backward or just hold the ball. Make them foul you. If you make that pass, you have to be 100% sure you can get it over the trap. There was panic from the moment the ball was inbounded on that sequence.
Or, call a timeout. Duke had one left if I remember right. Things got a little hairy on the inbounds pass. Scheyer could (should?) have called a timeout right there.
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Illini2010-11
- Sugar Grove
I completely understand the reasoning to pass...it was failed execution.
The biggest issue was that there was a chance of held ball, which would have given possession to UCONN. However, Duke did have a timeout, so they could have called it to avoid a held ball.
Worst case scenario happened, and there will be Monday morning QB'ing for a long time. Only reason it was a dumb decision is because of the outcome. Those passes over the top are made regularly without second thought a majority of the time when they work. And if that shot isn't drilled from super deep, this conversation doesn't happen. Super crazy occurrence.
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I guess what I’m saying is this is no guarantee. When you’re trapped against full court press, and you’ve pre-determined you won’t pass the ball, many times that can result in a turnover as well.
Instead, he sees a wide open teammate up ahead. One super simple pass, which would’ve sealed it.
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He shouldn't have passed the ball either. LOL!
Passing is not a bad thing. He just needs to be stronger with the ball. Turnovers aren’t always 100% about the decision — sometimes it comes down to being strong with the ball.
I think the first part is a very good picture.
You have two guys coming to trap. Why are you trying to pass over them into the teeth of the trap?
Realistically I think the play is to just cover up and force them to foul you or call a timeout but if you really want to make the pass you fake up and then throw a bounce pass around the right side.
This. Very few guys are actually capable of making that shot from a shooting standpoint — at least in terms of such a pure release.
Why he’s a projected 1st rounder.
He’d have been better off just throwing the ball straight up in the air as high as he could
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