Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
#1,227      
Krombopulos_Michael
illini0440 said:
Worst kept secret in the conference.
Click to expand...
shocked matt leblanc GIF
 
#1,228      
wncillini
Keaton isn’t a point guard either
Click to expand...
Yeah since we dont run a classic offense where a traditional point guard is needed its much less of an issue, so long as they can handle the ball.
 
#1,229      
RimPressure
Worst kept secret in the conference.
Click to expand...
Excuse my ignorance but which part is the worst kept secret? That we have a shot (which I get because of his family) or that he’s going bag hunting?

Seems to me that If getting the biggest bag is his top priority then I imagine he’ll end up somewhere else. But if he’s ok with getting a very good but maybe not tippy top level bag but wants to be at Illinois then maybe we have a shot?
 
#1,233      
jamarvelous31
EmeraldCityIllini said:
I get the sentiment here is around the point of "ROI".

But, he was a lot more than a 6th man curveball in the offense - that's wildly selling short what he meant to us in this final four run. He played starters minutes (3rd most in Iowa game, 3rd most in the UCONN game, tied for 4th-most with Tomi in Houston game, 3rd most in VCU game). And just placing his value in the offense, is ignoring the run he had defensively.

And, as was pointed out before the tournament even began. It truly depends on the style of play we roll with. We shot a lot less threes this tournament, and (huge GASP!), he was flippin' awesome. When he was 6th man this tournament, and as you said, "at his best" - we actually weren't a 3-point centric offense.
Click to expand...
Yeah, we've been down this road before. Was the three-point offense bailed out by stoj or was it doing worse because you had your 6th/7th man starting (Davis) because your preseason starter shot 20% from three on a lot of open looks...

Strictly from a resource allocation perspective though the staff and team were bailed out by Wagler & Mirk. The staff absolutely should get credit for those two, but it definitely papered over overall inconsistent years from Tomi, Stoj & Boswell and a flop by Petro.

We had a near max tournament outcome with them. You trust the staff and it ain't my money, but being at risk of creating a straw man here, I'd still question paying Stoj & Tomi for their career max outcomes if it means losing out on someone more consistent or a better 'fit'.
 
#1,234      
CleverHandle1
Blackwell: Not a lock by any means. Those teams mentioned in the tweet are all accurate. But dad being a basketball alum and being at the final 4 with the Illinois fans certainly didn’t hurt our chances.
Click to expand...
Is he worth the money?
 
#1,235      
Iamgroot
We will see if he gets it, but this is why it was silly, even at the time, that folks were saying $1 million for Morez was an overpay by UM.
Click to expand...
I thought the 1 million offer was the one he signed with us right before leaving for Michigan, but i could be remembering it wrong
 
#1,236      
CrazedUIFan
jamarvelous31 said:
Yeah, we've been down this road before. Was the three-point offense bailed out by stoj or was it doing worse because you had your 6th/7th man starting (Davis) because your preseason starter shot 20% from three on a lot of open looks...

Strictly from a resource allocation perspective though the staff and team were bailed out by Wagler & Mirk. The staff absolutely should get credit for those two, but it definitely papered over overall inconsistent years from Tomi, Stoj & Boswell and a flop by Petro.

You trust the staff and it ain't my money, but I'd still question paying Stoj & Tomi for their career max outcomes if it means losing out on someone more consistent or a better 'fit'.
Click to expand...
I would argue that there were circumstances for all four you mentioned that did impact their game. The fact that we are coming off of a Final Four with three of those guys playing a huge role in our success does have some value. There are so many other factors that come into play when you look at Tomi and Andrej, such as knowing the system, coaches knowing how to coach them individually, and the trust factor. And can you guarantee you can get the same value out of the portal? This is, of course, not knowing what they are asking.
 
#1,237      
Bigtex
Tyler underwood has seriously figured some things out offensively…. If we could surround a group of key returners around with some knockdown shooters (think Alfonso Plummer) I don’t know how anyone guards it.
Click to expand...
ummm UConn knows how to guard it telling us all, need to make a few more adjustments.
 
#1,238      
EmeraldCityIllini
Made this same statement with Haggerty. I’ll apply to Blackwell. I’m not brave enough to pass on the proven talent.

But seeing the migraines our length and size caused teams, especially come out of conference, I’m really tempted to keep spamming that.

Not that Blackwell is small. But the jumbo point guard (whose really a combo guard) thing has served us quite well twice now.
 
#1,240      
IlliniBrave75
Portal Kombat is crazy…finding the right mix of guys is not easy, but when it works (see Michigan) 🤢it’s amazing! There are a lot of big names available and many more to come!
1775496342419.jpeg
 
#1,241      
Indy Illini Fan
illini0440 said:
Blackwell: Not a lock by any means. Those teams mentioned in the tweet are all accurate. But dad being a basketball alum and being at the final 4 with the Illinois fans certainly didn’t hurt our chances.
Click to expand...

I’ll chime in here as well … The talk in Indy was that Blackwell is VERY interested in coming here …

The teams mentioned are legit but from someone who’d know and I’ll let you all figure out who said this … 😎

“He ain’t leaving the Big Ten and it’d be pretty f’ing awesome to see my son in the Orange and Blue …”
 
#1,243      
awkwardpenguin
Indy Illini Fan said:
I’ll chime in here as well … The talk in Indy was that Blackwell is VERY interested in coming here …

The teams mentioned are legit but from someone who’d know and I’ll let you all figure out who said this …

“He ain’t leaving the Big Ten and it’d be pretty f’ing awesome to see him in the Orange and Blue …”
Click to expand...
Lets make it happen!!!
Donald Duck Money GIF
 
#1,244      
BrownTown
illini0440 said:
Blackwell: Not a lock by any means. Those teams mentioned in the tweet are all accurate. But dad being a basketball alum and being at the final 4 with the Illinois fans certainly didn’t hurt our chances.
Click to expand...
Kind of a cross thread post, but Michigan and Duke coaches are both rumored to be drawing interest from NBA teams.

Any chance that affects how seriously John looks at the other suitors?
 
#1,248      
Indy Illini Fan
SkyysNotFalling said:
Blackwell
Coleman
Andre
Mirk
Tomi

Jake
Z
Morillo
Cox
Click to expand...

They’re going to add a reliable big man off the bench … Ben type guy …

Cox is getting HUGE offers … He ain’t coming here to come off the bench …

Think more of a Malachi Smith, Feliz, or Harmon type of guy as a backup guard is what Brad is after …

The other 8 … Yeah that’s not a bad 8 … 😎
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back