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Epsilon
Will there be a ceremony at half time at a home game next season to hang his jersey? Same question for the Final Four banner…?

Was curious when we might know. It might be cool to fly into Champaign for that game.
 
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BalloonsTheElephant
the juiceman cometh said:
So winning the tip didn't lead to us winning the game?
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In a regulation game, we are guaranteed to get the ball back, so winning the tip really doesn't mean anything. In OT, you probably won't get the possession arrow to come back your way, so it does mean something.
 
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Luwdoo
In a regulation game, we are guaranteed to get the ball back, so winning the tip really doesn't mean anything. In OT, you probably won't get the possession arrow to come back your way, so it does mean something.
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It could mean an extra possession. If the team that wins the opening tip also gets the last jump ball possesison they get one more possession. You cant get that if you dont win the opening tip.
 
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amillini#2
BalloonsTheElephant said:
In a regulation game, we are guaranteed to get the ball back, so winning the tip really doesn't mean anything. In OT, you probably won't get the possession arrow to come back your way, so it does mean something.
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Winning the tip = 1/2 possession with alternating possessions on jump balls. It matters, but so little as to not really matter. KenPom had a piece on it sometime this year.
 
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aaeismacgychel
the juiceman cometh said:
Yeah, I was hoping someone with premium would have posted it, or that I could find it somewhere else online, but this was the best I was able to find. Confirms that as of February 11, Tomi was not in the top 10 or bottom 10 of this stat, meaning he was winning the tip at least 30% of the time.

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Via Kenpom: Jump Ball Rank:
Big Z: 20-6 overall, #8 in country
Tomi: 28-35 overall, #388 in country
 
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the juiceman cometh
aaeismacgychel said:
Via Kenpom: Jump Ball Rank:
Big Z: 20-6 overall, #8 in country
Tomi: 28-35 overall, #388 in country
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Are those all time stats? There were not that many tips this season. And yeah, Tomi is not amazing at them but 44.4% isn't terrible. Over the course of one season the difference between .444 and .500 is about two tips. Just seems like this is not a big deal. At the end of the day we're talking about a single play that might result in one team getting one additional possession (or it might not!). The idea that it's worth changing the starting lineup based on that seems nutty to me.
 
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aaeismacgychel
the juiceman cometh said:
Are those all time stats? There were not that many tips this season. And yeah, Tomi is not amazing at them but 44.4% isn't terrible. Over the course of one season the difference between .444 and .500 is about two tips. Just seems like this is not a big deal. At the end of the day we're talking about a single play that might result in one team getting one additional possession (or it might not!). The idea that it's worth changing the starting lineup based on that seems nutty to me.
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Yes, those are the all-time stats. Last season only:

Big Z: 6-1
Tomi: 15-19
 
#75      
aaeismacgychel
21ChampaignSt said:
FWIW - There is some recent data that shows the team that wins the tip off, wins the game about 52 or 53% of the time.
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Makes sense, generally it means they have the taller or significantly more athletic big. That said, tip off percentage is worth significantly significantly less than face off win percentage in hockey and statistically speaking there is extremely minimal positive correlation between face off win percentage and scoring goals and winning games. It used to be one of the prime valued metrics in hockey before it was completely debunked. So for basketball, it's almost completely insignificant especially with the possession arrow.
 
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