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After a century, Cat still has a very big presence in Illinois, but moved its headquarters to Texas in 2022..

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Maybe these guys then:

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#178      
As encouraging as anything else on that chart, since 2021, Illinois football has more wins than:

Michigan St
Mississippi St
Arkansas
Wisconsin
Kentucky
Florida St
UCLA
Nebraska
Aurburn
Florida
Arizona St
Indiana
Cincinnati
Oklahoma St
West Virgin
Syracuse
Oregon St
Arizona
Rutgers
Virginia
Vanderbilt
Purdue
Boston College
Northwestern
Virginia Tech
Colorado
Stanford
South Florida
Cal
Maryland
UCF
Baylor

I remember when this was one of the worst P4/P5 programs in the country.
 
#179      
I remember when this was one of the worst P4/P5 programs in the country.
yup

less than 10 years ago we were in the bottom 5-10 of all P4-G5 programs - along with IU, KU & Duke . Pretty big change since then . Good coaching and the transfer portal are the main reason for that for us & the other named programs . Going forward add $$ to the reasons for B1G programs raising the floor of the bottom 1/3 of the conference.

Time for Rutgers & Purdue to step up
 
#180      
As encouraging as anything else on that chart, since 2021, Illinois football has more wins than:

Michigan St
Mississippi St
Arkansas
Wisconsin
Kentucky
Florida St
UCLA
Nebraska
Aurburn
Florida
Arizona St
Indiana
Cincinnati
Oklahoma St
West Virgin
Syracuse
Oregon St
Arizona
Rutgers
Virginia
Vanderbilt
Purdue
Boston College
Northwestern
Virginia Tech
Colorado
Stanford
South Florida
Cal
Maryland
UCF
Baylor

I remember when this was one of the worst P4/P5 programs in the country.

On the other hand, by that chart our talent is still, on average, the worst in the Big Ten. Doing more.with less is nice and shows.good coaching, but we are bumping our heads on a low ceiling.
 
#182      
On the other hand, by that chart our talent is still, on average, the worst in the Big Ten. Doing more.with less is nice and shows.good coaching, but we are bumping our heads on a low ceiling.
A couple of things:

1. Recruiting rankings aren’t an exact science. Do you think Florida, Auburn, and Florida St actually pull in top recruiting classes and they lose so many games because they have the worst coaching staffs in the country? Or do you think it’s possible players see a bump in rating when they commit to those programs because that generates subscribers for recruiting sites? The inverse can also be true.

2. This chart goes back to 2021 before we had on the field success. Now that we have, we’ve seen a decently sizable bump in recruiting success the past few years. But like Whitman said on the podcast circuit last week, we’ll likely always need a punch a class or two above our weight.
 
#183      
Maybe these guys then:

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When embrace the memes used against us, they lose their power. See South American soccer twit... on second thought don't. Just trust me on this one.
 
#186      
they used to
that graph includes 2021 - present
I suspect it’s fallen off since PAC10 fell apart .

there are a lot of players ( & parents ) that grew up really admiring that school & program , but even that is not what it once was
Plus David Shaw was there until 2022 too
 
#191      
I am still puzzled by Indiana football. In the first place Cignetti turned that program over almost over night. I didn't think there was any program out there that could activate such a dramatic change so fast. Secondly, you can't do what he has done without spending huge amounts of money. Does Indiana football have that kind of a bankroll to play with? Thousands of alums with deep, deep pockets? If so, I might understand somewhat. But money alone can't do this; it's likely guys in the portal are looking at branding, history, a program legacy and other stuff. If Cignetti's got a genie in a bottle, why not share some of that with BB? Now if Indiana was doing the same thing in BASKETBALL, (they're evidently not) it wouldn't surprise me much.
 
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