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Fly Illini Fly!
Genesis said:
I don't understand this thinking. How can we on one hand widely complain about X's injury because he was playing late in a blow out loss, and on the other hand celebrate that our QB1 was in for every play - including the very same blow out loss? Because we got lucky, we should press our luck?

You can't develop experience by sitting on the pine.
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Well, you didn't once list "blow out losses" being the lone pipeline for your thinking.

You simply said QB2 snaps played, that you've been discouraged about.

In general, if we just looked at snaps played by QB2 in a season's span -- if they're high, then it likely means QB1 went down. If they're low, then it likely means QB1 was healthy.

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On a separate note, X didn't get hurt in a blowout loss. It was a blowout win. Believe Eastern or Central Michigan.
 
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therealmiket86
Fly Illini Fly! said:
Well, you didn't once list "blow out losses" being the lone pipeline for your thinking.

You simply said QB2 snaps played, that you've been discouraged about.

In general, if we just looked at snaps played by QB2 in a season's span -- if they're high, then it likely means QB1 went down. If they're low, then it likely means QB1 was healthy.

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On a separate note, X didn't get hurt in a blowout loss. It was a blowout win. Believe Eastern or Central Michigan.
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He got hurt at the end of the central Michigan game. Last year very few back ups played compared to previous years. The start was going for style points to try to make the playoffs.
 
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Joel Goodson
Genesis said:
I'm surprised and disappointed how few snaps our QB2's have gotten in the last couple years. It's time to get Carson in the game!
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Genesis said:
I don't understand this thinking. How can we on one hand widely complain about X's injury because he was playing late in a blow out loss, and on the other hand celebrate that our QB1 was in for every play - including the very same blow out loss? Because we got lucky, we should press our luck?

You can't develop experience by sitting on the pine.
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Boyd wasn't QB2 last season. Our QB2 (Hampton) had a lot of experience. Playing QB3 over QB2 in garbage time (even with sound reason) opens a can of worms
 
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bluemountain
genevaillini39w said:
If they would have been at $15M for 2024 payroll versus $5M.....$25M for 2025 payroll versus $15M.....$35M for 2026 payroll versus the rumored $25M......I would love to see what Bret could do.

I think a handful of the top in-state kids would now at this point choose to stay and play for the Illini since they have begun to win at a good clip, but with the money gap....
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It's hard to keep up with the SEC and top BIG programs here. South Carolina just got a commitment from a top 100 HS DB - rumor is he is getting $1.5M
 
#110      
illinoistradition
bluemountain said:
It's hard to keep up with the SEC and top BIG programs here. South Carolina just got a commitment from a top 100 HS DB - rumor is he is getting $1.5M
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I would much rather spend that money on proven portal players. With the number of busts we’ve had over the years with top 200 kids, it’s not worth burning that kind of money on someone who hasn’t played a snap of college ball.
 
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lstewart53x3
illinoistradition said:
I would much rather spend that money on proven portal players. With the number of busts we’ve had over the years with top 200 kids, it’s not worth burning that kind of money on someone who hasn’t played a snap of college ball.
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Agreed. You could pay a kid $1.5 million for his freshman year where he barely plays, then he transfers out for $2.5 million his sophomore year and you received zero value for your investment.

You also have to be careful overpaying for a player too because of what that can do for your team culture. You're paying the freshman DB who doesn't play $1.5 million. How much should the starters make?
 
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RabidDawgClassic
lstewart53x3 said:
Agreed. You could pay a kid $1.5 million for his freshman year where he barely plays, then he transfers out for $2.5 million his sophomore year and you received zero value for your investment.

You also have to be careful overpaying for a player too because of what that can do for your team culture. You're paying the freshman DB who doesn't play $1.5 million. How much should the starters make?
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“Investment” is probably the wrong choice of words here as neither the school nor the donors (especially the donors) expect to see tangible return on the money they provide to the player. For the school, each payment is merely a cost of doing business each year while most donors are paying for close access to the team. The $1.5 million player this year will be replaced by a $1.5 player next year. And what would’ve been a $2.5 million sophomore will be purchased from another program for roughly that same price.
 
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lstewart53x3
RabidDawgClassic said:
“Investment” is probably the wrong choice of words here as neither the school nor the donors (especially the donors) expect to see tangible return on the money they provide to the player. For the school, each payment is merely a cost of doing business each year while most donors are paying for close access to the team. The $1.5 million player this year will be replaced by a $1.5 player next year. And what would’ve been a $2.5 million sophomore will be purchased from another program for roughly that same price.
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Not sure I agree. Sure, it’s not an investment in the sense that a donor expects a monetary return, but it is an investment because donors and schools would like to get value in return for the money they’re spending. In this situation, that value is simply being a good player and contributing to winning football.

And just like any other investment, there’s opportunity cost. $1.5 million going to the freshman not playing is $1.5 million less for the starter level transfer you can no longer afford.
 
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