Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

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#51      
I think you're right and we're definitely one of the haves vs have nots, BUT we still have a ways to go before we say we don't have to worry about it.


Interesting list.
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The NIL Standard uses a proprietary multi-factor model to estimate every basketball player's annualized NIL market value. With only 13 scholarships and five starters, basketball NIL economics are driven by role, program prestige, draft projection, and market reach. These are independent estimates, not official financial disclosures.

In Other Words
We are making our best guesstimate.
 
#52      
Something about this Jan. 1st visit hasn't been sitting right with me.

Cal is known to plan reclasses out well in advance of anyone else knowing about it, so why would all the other visits be in Sept/Oct and this one in January 🤔 this has got me thinkin...
The last three visits are all about a month apart. That may be what the family thinks is reasonable during the school year and/or what fits into their playing schedule. Arkansas hosts Missouri on Jan 2.
 
#53      
Copy and paste from site:
The NIL Standard uses a proprietary multi-factor model to estimate every basketball player's annualized NIL market value. With only 13 scholarships and five starters, basketball NIL economics are driven by role, program prestige, draft projection, and market reach. These are independent estimates, not official financial disclosures.

In Other Words
We are making our best guesstimate.

a euphemism for we're pulling it out of our butt
 
#54      
a euphemism for we're pulling it out of our butt
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#55      
To bag, or not to bag, that is the question:

Whether ‘tis nobler in the team to suffer

The ninth and tenth men of outrageous fortune,

Or to take shots against a sea of threes

And by opposing brick them. To lose—to turney-run

No more; and by a sleeper season to end

The heart-ache and the thousand cutting shocks

That Fletch is heir to: ‘tis a consummation

Devoutly to be wish’d. To choke, to weep;

To weep, perchance to dream—ay, there’s the flub:

For in that sleep of slump from this mortal coil,

Must give us pause—there’s the respect

That makes losses of so long season.


(with apologies to the Bard)
Great stuff. Nice work.
 
#60      
You gotta love the officials we're lining up with these 5 stars. It's all window dressing until we land one I know. But this is really nice to see.
The Groce era was peppered with big name guys coming for visits and then always ending up 2nd or 3rd in the running. Obviously this feels different, but other than maybe Duke, we aren't going to bring in 3-4 five star guys in one year, but we still have to close the deal with 1-2 guys. That's what Groce couldn't do. He couldn't point to the success that he had. Underwood can simply say, we put players in the NBA each year and we make deep tourney runs. That too me is the difference.

I know it's been repeated so many times, but Ayo's commitment to us when we were on the bottom was really what started this all. His success allowed the next wave to come, which allowed the next wave to come, and so on. I know its more than just one player or one coach, but that kick started this run.
 
#64      
Yeah why are we acting like Will and Quentin aren’t 5-stars? Also, it’s very clear Keaton should have been one himself. We’re talking about 3 players in 3 consecutive years that were, formally or effectively, 5-stars.

I don’t really care what 247 composite says when our staff has already built a foundation as 5-star Guard U.
 
#65      
Yeah why are we acting like Will and Quentin aren’t 5-stars? Also, it’s very clear Keaton should have been one himself. We’re talking about 3 players in 3 consecutive years that were, formally or effectively, 5-stars.

I don’t really care what 247 composite says when our staff has already built a foundation as 5-star Guard U.
I love that the staff can identify talented players that are not listed as 5 star guys or even top 4 star guys when we get in on them but then may become them or shouldve been. I mean KJ was a one n done too. How many were after KJ or Mirk? We also were in early on Kitt and now he has shot up in the rankings. I love when when we get in on some of these guys early and get an advantage before others are looking at them. We lost Sarr to Duke but we were one of the first on him. I like when we get in early on players and i think the staff has excelled at doing so. Wabbington is a great player and i hope we land him but these studs everyone is on early are much tougher to get.
 
#66      
Yeah why are we acting like Will and Quentin aren’t 5-stars? Also, it’s very clear Keaton should have been one himself. We’re talking about 3 players in 3 consecutive years that were, formally or effectively, 5-stars.

I don’t really care what 247 composite says when our staff has already built a foundation as 5-star Guard U.

KJ should have absolutely been a 5-star as well.
 
#68      
Other schools have now hired back alley agents in Europe. I have come to love our bigs from Eastern Europe. Davis surprise me how skilled and big he is. Great identification of talent. This kid doesn't impress me.
 
#72      
You gotta love the officials we're lining up with these 5 stars. It's all window dressing until we land one I know. But this is really nice to see.

 
#74      
Darius Wabbington Official Visit:


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This is a big-time visit!

Tifwiw, but I'm told this is Brad's favorite big regardless of class, and he and OA are going to go all out to land this kid!

They see him as Mirk 2.0, his replacement next year hopefully after he's drafted...

Wabbington is so skilled and such an elite passer, the staff would like to pair him with another big, a Center with excellent range and shot blocking ability, and keep DW at the 4 where they think he can be ultra effective in this offense!

He's more skilled than any other big they are recruiting, so this is going to be a high-level OV.

They plan to pull out all the stops on Oct. 23 🟧🟦
 
#75      
This is a big-time visit!

Tifwiw, but I'm told this is Brad's favorite big regardless of class, and he and OA are going to go all out to land this kid!

They see him as Mirk 2.0, his replacement next year hopefully after he's drafted...

Wabbington is so skilled and such an elite passer, the staff would like to pair him with another big, a Center with excellent range and shot blocking ability, and keep DW at the 4 where they think he can be ultra effective in this offense!

He's more skilled than any other big they are recruiting, so this is going to be a high-level OV.

They plan to pull out all the stops on Oct. 23 🟧🟦
He’s from Arizona and it’s going to be tough to beat them out.
 
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