Aren’t you guy the who’s all about depth in roster building? Lol
And sweet 16 isn’t good with a top 3 paid roster. Sorry.
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College Sports (Basketball)
Aren’t you guy the who’s all about depth in roster building? Lol
And sweet 16 isn’t good with a top 3 paid roster. Sorry.
Depth is the reason they were still able to have a decent year according to circumstances, by getting a 7 seed and winning a tournament game.
They lost their starting center and starting point guard for the year, and a rotation player for 11 games.
That's equivalent to Illinois losing Vaaks and Tomislav for the year, and Jake Davis for 11 games. If that were to happen (god forbid), I don't think we'd be any better than Kentucky was.
For you it wasn't, but most people nationally thought it was pretty good.
They beat some of the best teams in the country in Duke, Florida, Tennessee, and more.
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They were an Oweh banked in 40 footer from losing to Santa Clara in the first round.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Huh? Using Torvik, here’s the projected average ranking of the bottom 3rd of each power conference:
SEC: 60.8
B12: 73.4
B1G: 74.5
BE: 80.3
ACC: 96.3
The SEC has the most strength at the bottom of their conference, but the ACC has the most bad teams and it isn’t particularly close.
Not only that, but the B1G has 9 teams in the top 30. The ACC has 4.
It wasnt loaded because of injuries. Pretty reasonable explanation.
That's pretty misleading.
Ty was a loss, but he wasn't the starting point guard or the starting center.
Kentucky lost their starting point guard and starting center who was a first round pick, for the season.
The point per game numbers you have are from very limited sample size on hobbled bodies.
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I want to make sure to give NarrowJ the credit here, as I'm taking this from his post:
Big Ten 3 worst teams were Maryland (119), Rutgers (125) and Penn St (139).
SEC 3 worst teams were Ole Miss (64), South Carolina (96) and Miss St (102).
Big East 3 worst teams were Butler (84), Xavier (94) and DePaul (99).
I forgot how horrific the ACC was last year, but not sure how our worst lines up with theirs.
Keep in mind, what is being discussed is the depth of the conference from top to bottom. The top half of the conference, as you point out, is extremely reputable. As you get to the bottom......it's pretty bad. All that said, an 18 team conference is bound to bottom out pretty hard. It's year to year on where that cut off is. Up until BB, we were part of the problem, not the solution, in football.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Couple things:
1. You said in your post “the B1G’s 12-18 teams aren’t up to par”. That’s why I used the data for the bottom 3rd of the conference, not just the bottom 3 teams from each conference. I also used Torvik’s projected rankings for next season, so my numbers are slightly different. Using the projected numbers when comparing the bottom 3rd of each conference, the B1G was middle of the pack and didn’t have “the most bad teams out of any power conference” like you said in your post.
2. Even with the “bad” teams factored in, Torvik still had the B1G as the #1 conference overall last year and looks poised to have us at #1 again this year, but it’ll be close between us and the SEC.
The guys you’re talking about averaged 8ppg, 6ppg and 5ppg. Hobbled bodies? What a lame excuse, they didn’t play while they were injured lmao.
Lost Ty for the season, lost Tomi for a few, lost Boswell for a few, lost Andrej for quite a lot, lost Jaksys (practice body) for the season. Z had to wear a mask for like a month. That’s 6 guys and the production lost for some of these guys is double what Kentucky was losing.
One team made a F4, one was a big old $20 million flame out.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
The excuses he’s making for Kentucky, he wouldn’t dare make for Brad and Illinois.
I mean even if we wanna play the injury excuse with Kentucky, then it was a $13-15M roster that sucked instead of a $20M roster that sucked.
It still sucked.
Torvik is hot garbage at this point. Might be close.
They'll have preseason 1, then Tenn, Ark, Kentucky, Texas all ranked high, then Vandy, Missouri, Bama in that top 25 range.
B10 has MSU, Michigan, Illinois, USC, then maybe a little Nebraska, UCLA, Purdue,
100%. Georgia Tech was so bad if you played them at home that would've been a Q4 game. Only Q4 team from any major conference.
Wanted to see how common that was historically, and couldn't find historical NET data so used KP as a substitute. Turns out more common historically than I thought. In 2025 there were 4 major conference teams ranked 161+. 3 from the ACC, 1 from the Big East. 4 total in 2024, 1 from ACC, 1 from Big East, 1 from SEC. 8 total in 2023, 5 from ACC (!!!), 1 from Big East, 1 from B10, 1 from SEC. In 2022, 3 total, 1 from ACC, 1 from SEC, 1 from Big East.
So, over the last five years very little to suggest that the bottom of the Big 10 is particularly weak compared to the other major conferences. ACC is clearly worse.