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PleaseMakeABowlGame
EmeraldCityIllini said:
Aren’t you guy the who’s all about depth in roster building? Lol
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Depth is the reason they were still able to have a decent year according to circumstances, by getting a 7 seed and winning a tournament game.

They lost their starting center and starting point guard for the year, and a rotation player for 11 games.

That's equivalent to Illinois losing Vaaks and Tomislav for the year, and Jake Davis for 11 games. If that were to happen (god forbid), I don't think we'd be any better than Kentucky was.
EmeraldCityIllini said:
And sweet 16 isn’t good with a top 3 paid roster. Sorry.
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For you it wasn't, but most people nationally thought it was pretty good.

They beat some of the best teams in the country in Duke, Florida, Tennessee, and more.
 
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Second place is 1st loser
NarrowJ said:
Right. Twenty million dollar roster wasn’t loaded. I’ll be a little harsh because the situation requires it: that’s a braindead take.

Brad lost Ty for the season and had 4-5 other guys go down and still made a F4.

Pope had 3 guys injured who averaged 8ppg, 6ppg and 5ppg and finished the season 22-14 topped off with an absolute thrashing by a Jefferson-less Iowa St team.
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They were an Oweh banked in 40 footer from losing to Santa Clara in the first round.
 
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lstewart53x3
Second place is 1st loser said:
The problem that the Big Ten has is that the bottom of the conference (12-18) isn't up to par. It's true in basketball and especially true in football.

It's a three tiered Conference:

1)National contenders
2)Reputable programs
3)Just flat out bad.

I think the Big Ten has more teams in that #3 category than any other of the power conferences.
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Huh? Using Torvik, here’s the projected average ranking of the bottom 3rd of each power conference:

SEC: 60.8
B12: 73.4
B1G: 74.5
BE: 80.3
ACC: 96.3

The SEC has the most strength at the bottom of their conference, but the ACC has the most bad teams and it isn’t particularly close.

Not only that, but the B1G has 9 teams in the top 30. The ACC has 4.
 
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PleaseMakeABowlGame
NarrowJ said:
Right. Twenty million dollar roster wasn’t loaded. I’ll be a little harsh because the situation requires it: that’s a braindead take.
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It wasnt loaded because of injuries. Pretty reasonable explanation.
NarrowJ said:
Brad lost Ty for the season and had 4-5 other guys go down and still made a F4.

Pope had 3 guys injured who averaged 8ppg, 6ppg and 5ppg and finished the season 22-14 topped off with an absolute thrashing by a Jefferson-less Iowa St team.
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That's pretty misleading.

Ty was a loss, but he wasn't the starting point guard or the starting center.

Kentucky lost their starting point guard and starting center who was a first round pick, for the season.

The point per game numbers you have are from very limited sample size on hobbled bodies.
 
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Second place is 1st loser
lstewart53x3 said:
Huh? Using Torvik, here’s the projected average ranking of the bottom 3rd of each power conference:

SEC: 60.8
B12: 73.4
B1G: 74.5
BE: 80.3
ACC: 96.3

The SEC has the most strength at the bottom of their conference, but the ACC has the most bad teams and it isn’t particularly close.

Not only that, but the B1G has 9 teams in the top 30. The ACC has 4.
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I want to make sure to give NarrowJ the credit here, as I'm taking this from his post:

Big Ten 3 worst teams were Maryland (119), Rutgers (125) and Penn St (139).
SEC 3 worst teams were Ole Miss (64), South Carolina (96) and Miss St (102).
Big East 3 worst teams were Butler (84), Xavier (94) and DePaul (99).

I forgot how horrific the ACC was last year, but not sure how our worst lines up with theirs.

Keep in mind, what is being discussed is the depth of the conference from top to bottom. The top half of the conference, as you point out, is extremely reputable. As you get to the bottom......it's pretty bad. All that said, an 18 team conference is bound to bottom out pretty hard. It's year to year on where that cut off is. Up until BB, we were part of the problem, not the solution, in football.
 
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