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March2TheArch
EmeraldCityIllini said:
I said the same thing last year, so ill be cautious. But McCoy, Thiam, and Estrella is a ROUGH 3 - 5 shooting lineup.
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Cadeau is not a marquee shooter either. He’s streaky. Lot of scoring pressure on McKenney who was dribbling the ball off his foot vs. Lithuania.

Both the Michigan teams struggle to shoot the ball. And they don’t have a cheat code in Mara lobs and Yaxel and Morez checking 1-5 full court while taking no material cardio hit on the offensive end. That was a generational front line that would have bothered UConn 2024 and trounced numerous other recent champs such as Florida, Baylor, Kansas, Virginia. The Brunson teams, UConn 2023/24, and Michigan 2026 are the best title teams since the AD Wildcats.
 
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PepeSilvia
EmeraldCityIllini said:
RJ Luis lol.

I swear. If some of yall got your wish on will Wade being here I think I would have had to give up on Illini hoops and probably all college basketball.
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There is no way this is going to hold up. Honestly probably good for the NCAA in their fight if this kind of ridiculous stuff is getting through along with NFL guys coming back after getting cut in preseason.

The crazier it seems now, makes it more likely they get some help from Washington or it gets escalated into an appellate court(or even supreme court) for a ruling.
 
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HoopsterMan
March2TheArch said:
That said…

McCoy’s shot looks horrible - from 3 and FT stripe. People will play a half foot off him until he can prove he can hit’em. And no one was going to replace Yaxel.

Estrella is a major downgrade at the 4 from Morez. Better shooter and that’s about it.

Thiam, assuming minor injury, will be a problem. Skilled 5-man ala Mara.

Michigan does not have a proven secondary ball handler. The team looks clanky without Cadeau.

McKenney is a major upgrade on Nimari.

In summary, a top 5 back court. But definitely behind UConn and Duke.

On the whole, this is a top 10 but not top 5 team. Assuming full health, I would definitely take Florida, Duke, UConn, and us over them.
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McKenney played a ton last year, they started Burnett but McKenney was getting majority minutes.

The front court is a major drop off, but last years UM team had a legendary FC. Yaxel was NPOY if not for Boozer and one of the more unique 3's the sport has seen in ages. The guy went on to win the NBA Summer League title and MVP. Add in the loss of Dusty and I'd say fringe top 10.
 
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NarrowJ
Det_Illini_fan said:
How many roster spots do they have? Feels like they keep adding more and more
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They lost Saint-Supery so adding Lee makes sense for them. Is this guy involved in all of the flip-flopping court decisions we've seen of late? If so, never know if he actually lands there. Seems as a kid who played 30+ games in each of his 4 seasons would be in grave danger of being ruled ineligible once again before the season begins. There's no obvious hardship or injury waiver there. Seems his situation is far from final at this point.
 
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Fly Illini Fly!
NarrowJ said:
Is this guy involved in all of the flip-flopping court decisions we've seen of late? If so, never know if he actually lands there. Seems as a kid who played 30+ games in each of his 4 seasons would be in grave danger of being ruled ineligible once again before the season begins. There's no obvious hardship or injury waiver there. Seems his situation is far from final at this point.
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He’s in the California state case, so he is expected to be eligible.

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The only state cases that have been “stayed” are the Ohio and Tennessee ones (in addition to the Colorado which was a class-wide injunction).

Anyone who gained their eligibility via those cases are in danger of losing their eligibility.
 
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NarrowJ
Fly Illini Fly! said:
He’s in the California state case, so he is expected to be eligible.

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The only state cases that have been “stayed” are the Ohio and Tennessee ones (in addition to the Colorado which was a class-wide injunction).

Anyone who gained their eligibility via those cases are in danger of losing their eligibility.
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The California case certainly does not mean immunity. The TRO granted in California, just like the ones in Ohio, Tenn, Georgia, is a temporary relief order and subject to NCAA appeals. There's also precedent danger with the NCAA already successfully securing higher court stays to overturn these other athlete wins.

The Ohio/Tenn/Colorado/Georgia cases do not help his chances, they hurt it immensely.
 
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HensonHall71
NarrowJ said:
The California case certainly does not mean immunity. The TRO granted in California, just like the ones in Ohio, Tenn, Georgia, is a temporary relief order and subject to NCAA appeals. There's also precedent danger with the NCAA already successfully securing higher court stays to overturn these other athlete wins.

The Ohio/Tenn/Colorado/Georgia cases do not help his chances, they hurt it immensely.
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IANAL - but I don't understand why the conferences can't come out with their own rules for eligibility like the SEC did with Bediako last year. A local court eventually denied the injunction, rendering Bediako permanently ineligible. If the conferences had bylaws that declared players ineligible if they went through the draft process and went to the courts to deny these individual injunctions it should eliminate these 5 in 5 players coming back.

The RJ Louis case is particularly blatant as he singe multiple pro contracts and was even traded in the NBA! I thought the SEC bylaws clearly make him ineligible, but LSU added him anyway?
 
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NarrowJ
HensonHall71 said:
IANAL - but I don't understand why the conferences can't come out with their own rules for eligibility like the SEC did with Bediako last year. A local court eventually denied the injunction, rendering Bediako permanently ineligible. If the conferences had bylaws that declared players ineligible if they went through the draft process and went to the courts to deny these individual injunctions it should eliminate these 5 in 5 players coming back.

The RJ Louis case is particularly blatant as he singe multiple pro contracts and was even traded in the NBA! I thought the SEC bylaws clearly make him ineligible, but LSU added him anyway?
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IANAL either, but I think players can 'commit' to schools freely without consequence. Its the whole being eligible and actually being able to play in games part that actually gets litigated.
 
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