Norlander and Parish did their annual tradition of asking 100 D1 coaches the same questions.
Here’s where Illinois was mentioned:
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Here’s where Illinois was mentioned:
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I understand the arguments for Florida to be #1 and Haugh to be #1. But the margin seems absurd. Is Haugh THAT much better than second place (Fears)? Is Florida THAT much better than second place (Duke)?Norlander and Parish did their annual tradition of asking 100 D1 coaches the same questions.
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He'll play the right half of the year. They'll be tough if they get all these guys through and he's back.I understand the arguments for Florida to be #1 and Haugh to be #1. But the margin seems absurd. Is Haugh THAT much better than second place (Fears)? Is Florida THAT much better than second place (Duke)?
For me, I’d have Fears as the best player and Duke as the best team.
JT Toppin is the best player by definition, but won't even play half the year, so probably doesn’t qualify here.
Practice body. Hasn't scored a single point in his college career.
WHO was this “star” on 2015 Kentucky? Duke is the deepest and most talented team since then.There's nobody on their roster that I look at and say: "he's a star"
It won’t be “wide open.” It’s just the fantasy when all records are 0-0.I think this year is wide open. Florida's backcourt hasn't really changed much and Scheyer hasn't shown he can win consistently without a phenom NPOY on the team.
I think this year is wide open. Florida's backcourt hasn't really changed much and Scheyer hasn't shown he can win consistently without a phenom NPOY on the team.
If we can figure out the PG spot and Vaaks is the cats meow, right there, along with UConn and their backcourt.
All that said, they're an easy top 3-5 team but I can't put them in front of Florida given the huge gap in continuity and returning production.
If people have questions about Illinois's point guard play, then I have questions about Florida's point guard play.WHO was this “star” on 2015 Kentucky? Duke is the deepest and most talented team since then.
The only reasoning I can come up with for not having them #1, is that it's boring to vote for bluebloods. They’re clearly the most talented team, but they’re just Duke, and it’s more fun to give it to Florida. It’s kind of like the MVP voting when a guy wins it in consecutive years.
At worst they’re a lock for a 1 seed, and that’s as high a floor as you could have.
Expected back in two weeks.
WHO was this “star” on 2015 Kentucky? Duke is the deepest and most talented team since then.
The only reasoning I can come up with for not having them #1, is that it's boring to vote for bluebloods. They’re clearly the most talented team, but they’re just Duke, and it’s more fun to give it to Florida. It’s kind of like the MVP voting when a guy wins it in consecutive years.
At worst they’re a lock for a 1 seed, and that’s as high a floor as you could have.
If people have questions about Illinois's point guard play, then I have questions about Florida's point guard play.
Vaaks posted a 18.1 assist rate last year, and he's considered "not a point guard" and people are holding that against us.
Fland, who's considered FLA's point guard, was not much better at 18.2.
So, if Illinois doesn't have a point guard, then Florida doesn't either.
(P.S. I'm fully certain that the reason for this is that Vaaks is 6"7 while Fland is 6"1, but let's just pretend that logic is the logic for the sake of the argument)
Yes, they did, but their leading scorer averaged 11.0 per game. So, on a team so deep and talented, you don't need a guy to put up huge statistics like a Boozer.The fact that you love them makes me think they're probably not even as good as I think they are.
2015 Kentucky? The team that had multiple future NBA All-Stars? That team had multiple stars.
Shared this a while ago. This is from a list of the top 100 players in the player of the year betting odds. Duke and Illinois very comparable. Duke with more depth though that doesn’t necessarily show up on this list. But I’m not sure I’d classify Duke as a super team, at least not preseason, and I’d still have Florida #1.The fact that you love them makes me think they're probably not even as good as I think they are.
2015 Kentucky? The team that had multiple future NBA All-Stars? That team had multiple stars.
Nobody is a lock for a 1 seed, ever.
Duke is a deep team but has no business being in conversations as the most talented team in 10+ years. Their team last year was not quite as deep, but there was better top end talent.
I went from seeing Florida with possibly both X.Lee and Aberdeen to neither in a few days. Their secondary guards are pretty good but nothing special, but will have to see.
| School | Players | Best Rank | Top 25 | Top 50 | Avg Rank |
| Michigan | 5 | #14 | 3 | 3 | 33.8 |
| Illinois | 4 | #4 | 2 | 3 | 30.5 |
| Florida | 4 | #2 | 3 | 3 | 23.0 |
| Duke | 4 | #3 | 2 | 4 | 29.3 |
| Arkansas | 4 | #8 | 2 | 2 | 56.0 |
| Kentucky | 4 | #16 | 1 | 1 | 53.3 |
| North Carolina | 4 | #31 | 0 | 2 | 54.3 |
| Tennessee | 4 | #12 | 1 | 2 | 56.8 |
| USC | 4 | #45 | 0 | 1 | 63.5 |
| Houston | 4 | #39 | 0 | 2 | 66.5 |
C'mon - Fland came out of HS a PG. He's a traditional PG.If people have questions about Illinois's point guard play, then I have questions about Florida's point guard play.
Vaaks posted a 18.1 assist rate last year, and he's considered "not a point guard" and people are holding that against us.
Fland, who's considered FLA's point guard, was not much better at 18.2.
So, if Illinois doesn't have a point guard, then Florida doesn't either.
(P.S. I'm fully certain that the reason for this is that Vaaks is 6"7 while Fland is 6"1, but let's just pretend that logic is the logic for the sake of the argument)
Not a soul?C'mon - Fland came out of HS a PG. He's a traditional PG.
Vaaks is a 6'7" combo/wing archetype that did some ballhandling because they had no options. There isn't a soul on the planet that would say Vaaks is a PG.
is this a leap year?
Yes, they did, but their leading scorer averaged 11.0 per game. So, on a team so deep and talented, you don't need a guy to put up huge statistics like a Boozer.
2015 - Towns, Booker and Steins. Harrison brothers were way overrated. Talented, young, as usual with Cal. They did have top pick, 4 lottery picks total. Towns was NBA ROY.The fact that you love them makes me think they're probably not even as good as I think they are.
2015 Kentucky? The team that had multiple future NBA All-Stars? That team had multiple stars.
Nobody is a lock for a 1 seed, ever.
Duke is a deep team but has no business being in conversations as the most talented team in 10+ years. Their team last year was not quite as deep, but there was better top end talent.
I went from seeing Florida with possibly both X.Lee and Aberdeen to neither in a few days. Their secondary guards are pretty good but nothing special, but will have to see.
He's not a PG. Here's a good scouting report on him, that lists him as a SG/SF. Maybe he's de facto PG here. Any scouting report you'll see on the kid is SG/SF.Not a soul?
I didn't say they had no star players. I said they had no college star players. College star player means someone who puts up star numbers on their college team (like Boozer, who you mentioned is the "star" Duke doesn't have).Raw PPG might be the most irrelevant thing ever. You seemed to posit they had no star players, they had multiple. The fact a guy averages 11 PPG in college doesn’t make him not an NBA All-Star.
Raw PPG might be the most irrelevant thing ever.
That doesn't sound overly consistentInteresting though that Kentucky only scored 74 PPG as a team that year, seems very atypical for a top team with the kind of offensive talent they had.
What makes a player a point guard?He's not a PG. Here's a good scouting report on him, that lists him as a SG/SF. Maybe he's de facto PG here. Any scouting report you'll see on the kid is SG/SF.
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