Illini Basketball 2026-2027

#527      
Hoopster is onto something. We've been going about this all wrong. Our team is clearly way too tall. With positional size being all the rage, the Moneyball play here is to recruit a team full of short guys. Just run out 5 Fletched-out Muggsy Bogues type guys.

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#531      
Practice body. Hasn't scored a single point in his college career.

WHO was this “star” on 2015 Kentucky? Duke is the deepest and most talented team since then.

The only reasoning I can come up with for not having them #1, is that it's boring to vote for bluebloods. They’re clearly the most talented team, but they’re just Duke, and it’s more fun to give it to Florida. It’s kind of like the MVP voting when a guy wins it in consecutive years.

At worst they’re a lock for a 1 seed, and that’s as high a floor as you could have.

It won’t be “wide open.” It’s just the fantasy when all records are 0-0.

On Selection Sunday, there will be 1-3 “superteams” ahead of everybody else, and one of them will win the national title.

Last year it was Arizona, Duke, Michigan.

We just don’t know WHO those teams will be yet because it’s August.
Because they're clearly the most talented team most years. No other team has multiple top 10 guys coming off the bench - most of us recognize that. But we also recognize that doesn't necessarily produce a championship. You'd think it would happen one of these years, but as of now I think Florida is a better pick for #1.
 
#532      
The “true point guard” thing is probably a broader bball topic.

The days of the “floor general” who was typically smaller, and couldn’t play combo guard, are pretty much gone. First, because you need to be a scoring threat, but ironically, because if you’re too small you just get picked on defensively - offense and coaching with analytics have gotten too good.

Even the “true” PGs in the nba today are much bigger - Haliburton, Cade,
 
#537      
I’m not concerned at “PG” to initiate the offense; what I am not sure of is when it’s a 4 point game with 45 seconds left, who is breaking the press and getting the ball out of harms way…that seems more the question.

That was the biggest pro of Boswell for last years team in crunch time. Break a press, not lose the ball, make FTs
 
#538      
I’m not concerned at “PG” to initiate the offense; what I am not sure of is when it’s a 4 point game with 45 seconds left, who is breaking the press and getting the ball out of harms way…that seems more the question.

That was the biggest pro of Boswell for last years team in crunch time. Break a press, not lose the ball, make FTs
Excellent post. Those things are very important - ideally you have 2+ guys that can do that. Boswell was excellent in the regard.
 
#539      
For one, a tight handle. There is a reason PG's have not traditionally been 6'7". Protectors of the ball, creators, distributors, floor leaders. It's a mentality as much as it is an archetype.

You won't find a Vaaks scouting report that calls him a PG, because he's not. How is he going to defend an opposing PG?
What position does this guy play? God knows he's not getting paid 45 million a year to guard the other team's PG...

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#540      
I’m not concerned at “PG” to initiate the offense; what I am not sure of is when it’s a 4 point game with 45 seconds left, who is breaking the press and getting the ball out of harms way…that seems more the question.

That was the biggest pro of Boswell for last years team in crunch time. Break a press, not lose the ball, make FTs
Just as often they gave the ball to Mirk when pressed... No coach wants his PF trying to guard 50+ feet from the basket. Great way to give a foul.

If you throw a little guy at him, he's going to see right over him, and you'll give up a layup. We were excellent against the press last year. We are similarly talented. Coleman has been a good decision maker, even in All-Star type games, which is rare.
 
#541      
Just as often they gave the ball to Mirk when pressed... No coach wants his PF trying to guard 50+ feet from the basket. Great way to give a foul.

If you throw a little guy at him, he's going to see right over him, and you'll give up a layup. We were excellent against the press last year. We are similarly talented. Coleman has been a good decision maker, even in All-Star type games, which is rare.
We are too good of a passing team to press. Going to get burnt.
 
#542      
Stojakovic is also a really efficient "driver."

In 103 drives last season, he generated 1.107 points per possession, which was one of the top marks in the country.

His downhill presence gives the team a really effective weapon.
Only 103 drives? That seems low.

103/34 = 3.0 drives per game.
Andrej averaged 7.5 two point shots per game.

Where’s the other big chunk of 2 point shots coming from if they aren’t drives? Mid range / floaters? We don’t like taking those.
 
#544      
What position does this guy play? God knows he's not getting paid 45 million a year to guard the other team's PG...

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I did state college, but I knew this would come up. You won't find a Luka's in college. If we think Vaaks is Luka, let's go for it.

At this rate of Magic and Luka comparisons, we should really start turning all players 6'7" and above into PGs. It's only rational. Maybe Andrej and Mirk can get a whirl running point too. How are their passing rates?

Last 10 Cousy winners and height:

YearPlayerCollegeListed Height
2026Darius Acuff Jr.Arkansas6'2"
2025Braden SmithPurdue6'0"
2024Tristen NewtonUConn6'5"
2023Markquis NowellKansas State5'8" (measured 5'7" pro)
2022Collin GillespieVillanova6'3" (measured 6'1" pro)
2021Ayo DosunmuIllinois6'5"
2020Payton PritchardOregon6'2"
2019Ja MorantMurray State6'3"
2018Jalen BrunsonVillanova6'3"
2017Frank Mason IIIKansas5'11"
 
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#545      
I did state college, but I knew this would come up. You won't find a Luka's in college. If we think Vaaks is Luka, let's go for it.

At this rate of Magic and Luka comparisons, we should really start turning all players 6'7" and above into PGs. It's only rational. Maybe Andrej and Mirk can get a whirl running point too. How are their passing rates?

Last 10 Cousy winners and height:

YearPlayerCollegeListed Height
2026Darius Acuff Jr.Arkansas6'2"
2025Braden SmithPurdue6'0"
2024Tristen NewtonUConn6'5"
2023Markquis NowellKansas State5'8" (measured 5'7" pro)
2022Collin GillespieVillanova6'3" (measured 6'1" pro)
2021Ayo DosunmuIllinois6'5"
2020Payton PritchardOregon6'2"
2019Ja MorantMurray State6'3"
2018Jalen BrunsonVillanova6'3"
2017Frank Mason IIIKansas5'11"
We're done recruiting miniature, small guards. The staff has actively worked to filter out those players from our roster, because they don't fit our philosophy.
 
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#547      
I did state college, but I knew this would come up. You won't find a Luka's in college. If we think Vaaks is Luka, let's go for it.

At this rate of Magic and Luka comparisons, we should really start turning all players 6'7" and above into PGs. It's only rational. Maybe Andrej and Mirk can get a whirl running point too. How are their passing rates?

Last 10 Cousy winners and height:

YearPlayerCollegeListed Height
2026Darius Acuff Jr.Arkansas6'2"
2025Braden SmithPurdue6'0"
2024Tristen NewtonUConn6'5"
2023Markquis NowellKansas State5'8" (measured 5'7" pro)
2022Collin GillespieVillanova6'3" (measured 6'1" pro)
2021Ayo DosunmuIllinois6'5"
2020Payton PritchardOregon6'2"
2019Ja MorantMurray State6'3"
2018Jalen BrunsonVillanova6'3"
2017Frank Mason IIIKansas5'11"
You mean like Brad said is going to happen with Mirk?
 
#549      
I did state college, but I knew this would come up. You won't find a Luka's in college. If we think Vaaks is Luka, let's go for it.

At this rate of Magic and Luka comparisons, we should really start turning all players 6'7" and above into PGs. It's only rational. Maybe Andrej and Mirk can get a whirl running point too. How are their passing rates?
Absolutely.

 
#550      
I did state college, but I knew this would come up. You won't find a Luka's in college. If we think Vaaks is Luka, let's go for it.

At this rate of Magic and Luka comparisons, we should really start turning all players 6'7" and above into PGs. It's only rational. Maybe Andrej and Mirk can get a whirl running point too. How are their passing rates?

Last 10 Cousy winners and height:

YearPlayerCollegeListed Height
2026Darius Acuff Jr.Arkansas6'2"
2025Braden SmithPurdue6'0"
2024Tristen NewtonUConn6'5"
2023Markquis NowellKansas State5'8" (measured 5'7" pro)
2022Collin GillespieVillanova6'3" (measured 6'1" pro)
2021Ayo DosunmuIllinois6'5"
2020Payton PritchardOregon6'2"
2019Ja MorantMurray State6'3"
2018Jalen BrunsonVillanova6'3"
2017Frank Mason IIIKansas5'11"
Although I disagree with you on Vaaks, you do make a good point. There seem to be a lot of posters here that just think you can put the biggest guy out there, whether it be PG, SF, or whatever, and you automatically win the game.

There's a reason there aren't many 6'7 PGs in college ball. Generally guys much smaller than that have better handles and are quicker.

But Vaaks at 6'7 looks like a PG to me (at least offensively).
 
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