Michigan 13, Western Michigan 12

#329      
Why is it assumed that if they contested the result they wouldn't be paid. Is that stipulated in these contracts (not a rhetorical question)?

I wouldn't make that assumption --that seems like it would cause a serious PR issue. But scheduling future games that benefit both sides is probably on the table and and there's benefit to keeping the relationship. This happens in business all the time (potential future deals as leverage over current issues). No inside info on my part so consider it speculation. I don't know why WMU handled it the way they did.
 
#330      
i cant believe the big ten offices would try to explain how there would be 1 second left??
this is the easiest reversal ever. game was over, WMU won. they just didn't get a chance to
celebrate the biggest win in schools history on Michigan's field.
 
#332      
Throughout an entire game, after every dead ball, does the official clock get revised up to the previous second if, at the start of the play just ended, the clock had ticked down to the next second in less than a full second? If not, then the last play of the game should not be afforded this consideration.
I have always thought that. Every second should be as important as the last. Obviously I don’t want review of every play to put a second back on.
 
#333      
When you are a so called blue blood you get all the calls even the made up ones! Scum should be automatically eliminated from any playoff consideration immediately. Oklahoma will bury them!
 
#335      
Calvin,

why would western michigan want to go back and get screwed again?
It depends on who "Western Michigan" is. WMU as an institution clears a million or so dollars each time it schedules one of these engagements, which seems a no-brainer to accept for a program of lesser means than, say, the Leaders and BestTM. In addition, I'd guess that most MAC players would like the chance to play at least once in a venue such as Michigan Stadium. If "WMU" is the fan base well, then, it probably sucks without compensation.

IMO, what occurred at the end of the game Saturday night was a black swan event, and further egg smeared on Michigan's already-encrusted face, which we all enjoy. However, it also seems to me in this case that from WMU's POV, there's no such thing as bad publicity. It can only benefit WMU and its football program. Its president has already raised his profile as a sober, mature statesman. And the program now has some cred as a David v. kind-of-eldery-limping-Goliath (because that's what UM's football program resembles right now.)

All costs are sunk for WMU at this point. There's only upside for them. Unlike Michigan, which the public will continue to ridicule, much to my delight. Win-win.

Then again I'm a glass-half-full guy.
 
#336      
They can speak slowly and justify this junk. It's called robbery of who? 🤣 W. Michigan. They got robbed and frankly outperformed Michigan with less. Michigan fans exemplify why we have disgust for them and MuckU. This takes away from College Football and is pathetic. All about Money and College football playoffs.
 
#337      
i cant believe the big ten offices would try to explain how there would be 1 second left??
this is the easiest reversal ever. game was over, WMU won. they just didn't get a chance to
celebrate the biggest win in schools history on Michigan's field.
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#339      
While I'm of course sympathetic to WMU's plight here, the real sense of outrage I felt in the moment was the way in which the incident was a miraculous rescue from what would have been a credibility-shattering debut for Kyle Whittingham, who I have been shouting from the rooftops was a terrible, desperate hire whose misalignment with the Michigan job in 2026 is extremely vulnerable to being shattered in exactly that way.

The idea that this "classy Michigan with the classy Utah coach oh look how classy we all are" canard could limp along and fake it until it made it was very upsetting.

Good news this morning!


There's no way this marriage works. I am not backing down on this.
 
#340      
While I'm of course sympathetic to WMU's plight here, the real sense of outrage I felt in the moment was the way in which the incident was a miraculous rescue from what would have been a credibility-shattering debut for Kyle Whittingham, who I have been shouting from the rooftops was a terrible, desperate hire whose misalignment with the Michigan job in 2026 is extremely vulnerable to being shattered in exactly that way.

The idea that this "classy Michigan with the classy Utah coach oh look how classy we all are" canard could limp along and fake it until it made it was very upsetting.

Good news this morning!


There's no way this marriage works. I am not backing down on this.
You sir are 1000% correct. He is awesome and a old ball coach, proven winner. This will not go well in Ann Arbor
 
#342      
While I'm of course sympathetic to WMU's plight here, the real sense of outrage I felt in the moment was the way in which the incident was a miraculous rescue from what would have been a credibility-shattering debut for Kyle Whittingham, who I have been shouting from the rooftops was a terrible, desperate hire whose misalignment with the Michigan job in 2026 is extremely vulnerable to being shattered in exactly that way.

The idea that this "classy Michigan with the classy Utah coach oh look how classy we all are" canard could limp along and fake it until it made it was very upsetting.

Good news this morning!


There's no way this marriage works. I am not backing down on this.
I'm with you, and I'm confident that whatever respite Whittingham received from the heavens Saturday night will be brief.

I tuck into MGoBlog occasionally because it contains some solid writing and football/hoops analysis, and because it's delicious to watch its proprietor, Brian Cook, contort himself occasionally to rationalize certain of the university's ongoing embarrassments though, it must be said, not all. (He is forever appropriately disgusted with Bo Schembechler turning a blind eye for years to sexual abuse within the athletic department. In addition, a recent piece he wrote noted this: "You are what your litany of embarrassingly fired employees say you are.")

When I read his season preview last week I chuckled at this straw at which he grapsed:

Kyle Whittingham isn't Urban Meyer, though he worked with him and the men are friends. He is, however, a real football coach who's coached Michigan-!!! teams for 21 years already. The only women he follows on Instagram are family members. He used a 320-pound fullback a year ago.

When you're not between you feel like yourself. Just that; only that. Comfortable in your skin. Here's to Kyle Whittingham battering down some doors with sets Jim Harbaugh gets misty about. Here's to an athletic department that is not going to fire people for doing embarrassing things every other Thursday. Here's to whatever brief respite from the maelstrom around college sports the actual sport can provide.


That maelstrom around Michigan has yet to abate as of this afternoon. Let's hope it intensifies on national TV this Saturday afternoon v. Oklahoma, and that the 5.5-point spread is ludicrously low.

Long may it roil.

 
#343      
This is wrong because the clock shown on the replay is NOT NBC's clock. It's the stadiums clock, recorded via camera.
This thread is long, so you probably missed the screenshots in my previous post #288. You can see from the position of WMU's #12 (I said #2 but was describing #12) that the embedded clock was out of sync. We can slice it other ways with other points of reference, too. There was time left.

I've decided not to make some grand video overlay because 1) it would take me too long, 2) someone else probably already has, and 3) that's too much defense of Michigan... but ask questions and try to poke holes in my conclusions. Screenshots are easy to share. I want us Illini diehards to be the most informed fans out there.
 
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#344      
While I'm of course sympathetic to WMU's plight here, the real sense of outrage I felt in the moment was the way in which the incident was a miraculous rescue from what would have been a credibility-shattering debut for Kyle Whittingham, who I have been shouting from the rooftops was a terrible, desperate hire whose misalignment with the Michigan job in 2026 is extremely vulnerable to being shattered in exactly that way.

The idea that this "classy Michigan with the classy Utah coach oh look how classy we all are" canard could limp along and fake it until it made it was very upsetting.

Good news this morning!


There's no way this marriage works. I am not backing down on this.
As much as I hate Michigan, I just don't see this happening. It's not like they hired Lovie Smith; Whittingham is a damn good coach with a Big 10 persona and the $ to back it up. He is cursed right now with a bad QB, but once he gets a decent QB they will be playoff bound.
 
#345      
I'm with you, and I'm confident that whatever respite Whittingham received from the heavens Saturday night will be brief.

I tuck into MGoBlog occasionally because it contains some solid writing and football/hoops analysis, and because it's delicious to watch its proprietor, Brian Cook, contort himself occasionally to rationalize certain of the university's ongoing embarrassments though, it must be said, not all. (He is forever appropriately disgusted with Bo Schembechler turning a blind eye for years to sexual abuse within the athletic department. In addition, a recent piece he wrote noted this: "You are what your litany of embarrassingly fired employees say you are.")

When I read his season preview last week I chuckled at this straw at which he grapsed:

Kyle Whittingham isn't Urban Meyer, though he worked with him and the men are friends. He is, however, a real football coach who's coached Michigan-!!! teams for 21 years already. The only women he follows on Instagram are family members. He used a 320-pound fullback a year ago.

When you're not between you feel like yourself. Just that; only that. Comfortable in your skin. Here's to Kyle Whittingham battering down some doors with sets Jim Harbaugh gets misty about. Here's to an athletic department that is not going to fire people for doing embarrassing things every other Thursday. Here's to whatever brief respite from the maelstrom around college sports the actual sport can provide.


That maelstrom around Michigan has yet to abate as of this afternoon. Let's hope it intensifies on national TV this Saturday afternoon v. Oklahoma, and that the 5.5-point spread is ludicrously low.

Long may it roil.

This is how you post something, Outstanding.
 
#346      
This thread is long, so you probably missed the screenshots in my previous post #288. You can see from the position of WMU's #12 (I said #2 but was describing #12) that the embedded clock was out of sync. We can slice it other ways with other points of reference, too. There was time left.

I've decided not to make some grand video overlay because 1) it would take me too long, 2) someone else probably already has, and 3) that's too much defense of Michigan... but ask questions and try to poke holes in my conclusions. Screenshots are easy to share. I want us Illini diehards to be the most informed fans out there.
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#347      
As much as I hate Michigan, I just don't see this happening. It's not like they hired Lovie Smith; Whittingham is a damn good coach with a Big 10 persona and the $ to back it up. He is cursed right now with a bad QB, but once he gets a decent QB they will be playoff bound.
Whittingham was an excellent coach at Utah for decades, he richly deserved his Gary Patterson-like status as one of the most underrated coaches in the sport.

But the idea that this 66-year-old Mormon who had been at Utah since Gary Moeller was Michigan coach, running an under-the-radar program of 25 year old linemen and Cali kids with a chip on their shoulder (and retired from that job having been politely elbowed aside in favor of his HC-in-waiting) isn't a massive fish out of water helming Larry Ellison and Dave Portnoy's NIL machine at Michigan has been a total psyop from day 1.

If he navigates the Underwood mess successfully I will be flabbergasted.
 
#349      
I had a rough day yesterday with health issues......I just saw this thread about an hour ago....didn't know anything about this game until then ....................my only response will be scUM is evil and wmu got robbed ....period......

scUM is run by evil demons of the underworld and should be hated by everyone even remotely acquainted with college FB .......

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scUM Foosball is the debil .......it really really is .................

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this is embarrassing.....I want to bit*hslap sumbody.......I really really do.......
Pru I hope your feeling better today
 
#350      
Calvin,

why would western michigan want to go back and get screwed again?

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Everyone knows friendly officiating for the home team (or just plain bad calls) happen and can swing the game. Doesn't mean the WMU athletic dept doesn't want to get another game bought out. They've been doing road games with BIG opponents for years.
 
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