Illinois Hoops Recruiting Thread

#252      
Cuse finished 15th in ACC, and 2 games under .500. Makes sense
The main reason for that, was their FT shooting percentage:

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The game they had against Houston was absolutely putrid.
 
#254      
McNamara is going to make a difference. He's going to be really good. He's starting off well.
hated boeheim but they are a basketball school through and through, much like Illinois. Wouldn’t mind them getting back to winning as I always liked McNamara. They should invest in a new basketball arena, but idk what their books look like.
 
#256      
McNamara is going to make a difference. He's going to be really good. He's starting off well.
Mac was a home run hire, but let's not forget their first choice was Bryan Hodgson.

Remember that name, he's not long at PC. That guy is a killer. Whoever gets him next is going to reap the rewards - next big name on the seen. Learned under Oats, flipped Arkansas St and South Florida instantly. Will be running that heavy analytics based offense. Orphan, ice in his veins. In ten years, he's top of sport.

Him and Jai Lucas are next gen. Hurley probably has ten years left, not sure if he does some of that in

Why so many of these programs default to their crappy assistant coach to the legend without any HC experience is beyond me. Red Autry was such a bust. The forced alumni hire is one of the worst decisions in CBB. Duke did alright by Scheyer, but he was trained for 9 years and given a Ferrari. I think there was a decent chance he bombed had he taken the DePaul job. Nice guy, but comes off a bit canned.

The worst hire is the ex NBA star.

UNC - Hubert
UK - Pope
Cuse - Red
UConn - Ollie (won a title off Calhoun's fumes, the ran them into the ground)
Nova - Neptune
GTown - Ewing

There have been some bad coaching hires that have run legendary programs into the ground. Georgetown may have the next biggest brand to Duke in the 80s/90s as were Urban America's team with John Thompson, Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo and Iverson. Then he stepped down and they never really recovered after they tried Ewing in the seat. Now the fan base is completely apathetic.

Nova was on top of the CBB world there with Wright, they made a terrible hire in Neptune and now have to climb out of the hole they dug with a decent, not great coach in Willard.

When UConn was firing Ollie, they're short list included guys like Thad Matt and Tom Crean. Imagine if they went that route?
 
#264      
Before Kofi, we were horrible. As soon as he arrived, we were really good.

Yet, it's indisputable that Ayo was our best player and head of the snake.

So it's those two for me.
The question is, do we land a Kofi if Ayo wasn't here. Did he attract higher profile recruits? Ayo brought instant credibility by his commitment alone then, once here, he brought a swagger that made coming here "cool" again. The Michigan shot, the daggers vs OSU, etc....there was an electricity that we didn't have in a LONG time.

Trent, GB and Frazier were critical pieces to winning, but I don't think we're getting the higher level of recruits in the door(at that time) without Ayo. Glad we didn't have to find out.
 
#265      
Yep I agree and it's why you can make a pretty strong argument that Ayo is the GOAT in the program's history.
He's got a darn good argument for being the GOAT. Before him(and after the 2006 year), a good season for us was just not being on the bubble. If we got in as a 6 or 7, it was a really good season. Generally, we were sweating it out and after that, we weren't even in the conversation.

When Ayo came, his first year we were clearly in the rise because we had a star and here we are. If we're not a top 4 seed, people are ticked.

One COULD argue that the GOAT is Brad. Ayo isn't here without him. Brad sold a vision, which sold Ayo and Ayo was a fantastic ambassador of the program. Still is. Was he here without BU....don't think so.
 
#267      
Mac was a home run hire, but let's not forget their first choice was Bryan Hodgson.

Remember that name, he's not long at PC. That guy is a killer. Whoever gets him next is going to reap the rewards - next big name on the seen. Learned under Oats, flipped Arkansas St and South Florida instantly. Will be running that heavy analytics based offense. Orphan, ice in his veins. In ten years, he's top of sport.

Him and Jai Lucas are next gen. Hurley probably has ten years left, not sure if he does some of that in

Why so many of these programs default to their crappy assistant coach to the legend without any HC experience is beyond me. Red Autry was such a bust. The forced alumni hire is one of the worst decisions in CBB. Duke did alright by Scheyer, but he was trained for 9 years and given a Ferrari. I think there was a decent chance he bombed had he taken the DePaul job. Nice guy, but comes off a bit canned.

The worst hire is the ex NBA star.

UNC - Hubert
UK - Pope
Cuse - Red
UConn - Ollie (won a title off Calhoun's fumes, the ran them into the ground)
Nova - Neptune
GTown - Ewing


There have been some bad coaching hires that have run legendary programs into the ground. Georgetown may have the next biggest brand to Duke in the 80s/90s as were Urban America's team with John Thompson, Ewing, Mourning, Mutombo and Iverson. Then he stepped down and they never really recovered after they tried Ewing in the seat. Now the fan base is completely apathetic.

Nova was on top of the CBB world there with Wright, they made a terrible hire in Neptune and now have to climb out of the hole they dug with a decent, not great coach in Willard.

When UConn was firing Ollie, their short list included guys like Thad Matt and Tom Crean. Imagine if they went that route?
St. Johns- Chris Mullin
(asst. Mitch Richmond)
 
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