Remember, we played IU as the 5th game of that 13 day stretch. We were drained and Meyer was ill. We will beat IU as we will be healthy and restedOh he will
Remember, we played IU as the 5th game of that 13 day stretch. We were drained and Meyer was ill. We will beat IU as we will be healthy and restedOh he will
Most teams compared to whom? And by how much?In fairness, it helps when you have the most teams.
They still need to prove it. I don't believe in them. Let me have that no belief in them and you go ahead and have that belief and we'll see at the end of the day.How about the 5 guys on the floor with this year's team? With all the transfers now, for many teams, the only thing that stays the same is the coach.
We'll think about forgiving you.This is 100% accurate, and I apologize to the board, because I believe that my statements were causing contention last night, when in fact it was not intended.
KenPom has done an excellent job, as a whole, in determining strength of a team, and I believe it is one of the best metrics around. Minnesota would be around 190 regardless of what conference they played in, because they are truly a poor team by whatever metric you want to use, and they may squeak out a couple more games in a lesser conference but would not move the needle in KenPom. KemPom is actually one of the tools that I take a look at before making sport bets.
When I was speaking last night, rather ineloquently, was that I believe State of Chicago (the initial post that started this discussion) thinks that Minnesota would be competing for a top 4 position in WCC (likely based on perceived talent of the worst B1G roster). In order to get to top 4 in that league, unless you have a ton of "lucky" type factor wins to get there, they would be somewhere in the 100 range of KenPom (as reference San Francisco is 6th in WCC and ranked 97 KenPom). Could Minnesota get there? Maybe in 1-2% of models at best. The extreme likelihood is that Minnesota hovers very close to their current ranking if they played in the WCC (or any conference for that matter). Unless defying general statistical odds, it would be very difficult to obtain a top 4 position in WCC this year and not be around 100 KenPom at worst. In no way do I think MN would be anywhere close to that number...they are really bad (and Illini need to blow them out next Tuesday for good measure).
They still need to prove it. I don't believe in them. Let me have that no belief in them and you go ahead and have that belief and we'll see at the end of the day.
I'm not a Purdue fan and I don't necessarily believe in them. I'm just saying the ONLY way you judge a team can't be by it's school's previous performance, especially in this transfer driven times of NCAA basketball. If that were the case, Illinois could never win the tournament.They still need to prove it. I don't believe in them. Let me have that no belief in them and you go ahead and have that belief and we'll see at the end of the day.
I'm doing back-to-back games the next two weekends. Going to Iowa City this weekend and then Champaign for Rutgers. If we lose both you know who to blame now.I know the NET rankings might change, but damn...if we can win two this week (vs. Nebraska and at Iowa), we would actually be in a REALLY good situation on Sunday
I'll also be in Iowa City (visiting my dad and decided to hit up the game with some Iowa friends). As I said in another post, I am cautiously optimistic that there will be a lot of Illini fans!!I'm doing back-to-back games the next two weekends. Going to Iowa City this weekend and then Champaign for Rutgers. If we lose both you know who to blame now.
I don't care what his point is. I don't believe in Purdue. I don't know how many times and more ways I need to say it. You aren't going to change my mind about them. Now move on please. Goodness.That wasn't his point. His point was that this year's team has nothing to do with last year's team or the disappointment of the year before that.
You can hold whatever irrational beliefs that can be easily disproven by facts all you want, but it doesn't make those beliefs correct.
I didn't say they can't win the tournament. I said I don't believe they are going to win the tournament. Like I said to the other guy. I don't know how many times I need to repeat this. I don't believe in them. I feel like you are trying to bully me into or twist my arm until I fall in line with you and it's just not going to happen. I'm not going to change my mind no matter how many times you respond.I'm not a Purdue fan and I don't necessarily believe in them. I'm just saying the ONLY way you judge a team can't be by it's school's previous performance, especially in this transfer driven times of NCAA basketball. If that were the case, Illinois could never win the tournament.
I didn't say they can't win the tournament. I said I don't believe they are going to win the tournament. Like I said to the other guy. I don't know how many times I need to repeat this. I don't believe in them. I feel like you are trying to bully me into or twist my arm until I fall in line with you and it's just not going to happen. I'm not going to change my mind no matter how many times you respond.
Ah, so you're going to take the field vs. Purdue in the NCAA tournament.
EDIT: Not sure where to put this, but Carver-Hawkeye Arena seats 15,056. While I do not doubt that their fans get up for the Illinois game, especially when it is a big game for both of us, they have rarely come that close to selling out this year, including a big rivalry game, games vs. ranked opponents and some weekend games:I'll also be in Iowa City (visiting my dad and decided to hit up the game with some Iowa friends). As I said in another post, I am cautiously optimistic that there will be a lot of Illini fans!!
I've made a mental note to remember this. But don't fret, I don't remember much anymore.I'm doing back-to-back games the next two weekends. Going to Iowa City this weekend and then Champaign for Rutgers. If we lose both you know who to blame now.
Of course you shouldn't believe Purdue will win the tournament...because Illini are going to win it! Don't care how many people tell me I am drinking orange kool-aid. No matter how many tell me I am delusional, it will never change my mind.I didn't say they can't win the tournament. I said I don't believe they are going to win the tournament. Like I said to the other guy. I don't know how many times I need to repeat this. I don't believe in them. I feel like you are trying to bully me into or twist my arm until I fall in line with you and it's just not going to happen. I'm not going to change my mind no matter how many times you respond.
Because of past performance. It is like you have flipped a coin 50 times and got heads 50 times in a row. The next time it just has to be tails.Of course you shouldn't believe Purdue will win the tournament...because Illini are going to win it! Don't care how many people tell me I am drinking orange kool-aid. No matter how many tell me I am delusional, it will never change my mind.
Of course you shouldn't believe Purdue will win the tournament...because Illini are going to win it! Don't care how many people tell me I am drinking orange kool-aid. No matter how many tell me I am delusional, it will never change my mind.