So no weight at all put on regular season champs of the big ten? Hinges on Wisconsin losing to Nebraska, but feel like that will still hold some weight
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No, no weight on that at all. If Wisconsin loses to Nebraska it will affect Wisconsin's seeding, not ours.
We should be no lower than a 4 seed unless we stink it up in our next two games. I believe we get to the BTT final, we should get a three seed.
I agree, I think even if we lose out we are more likely a 4 than a 5. If we win tomorrow and make it to the final, I think we have a good chance at a 3 but it will also depend on what other teams do as I think we currently sit at 4.
If we lose our next two we will definitely be a 5
Anyone think we would be favorites had we had Ayo this year?
Any higher seed that loses might affect the seed of the 2's , and 3s and 4s. Do not pay attention to Lunardi, ESPN hates, HATES the big ten because of the network, and the many millions of dollars they have lost. ACC, SEC have ESPN as a partner and still do not get the revenue the big ten network distributes. Oops, sore point. I agree they will look at head to head when seeding, but there is a chance to move up, especially when higher seeds blow it.
Sure, if Wisconsin loses there's an outside chance we could pass them up, but I think the question had more to do with whether our status as a regular season conference champion would affect our seeding. And it wouldn't. Selection committee doesn't care about that.
Not suppose to maybe, I understand human psychology, it is subjective. The effin' supreme court of the U.S.A. should make that very clear. All I know is year after year when the head of the committee is asked about questionable decisions they pull out anything. Body of work, if it works for them. How teams finished in the last few games, if that is good for their decisions. Whatever works or them to save face, justify.
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There have been many instances in which a conference champion hasn't been the highest seed from its own conference. For example, we were seeded higher than Michigan last year.The committee truly doesn't care about that kind of accomplishment. It's just not part of the resume.
We weren't seeded higher than Michigan. We were both one seeds last year.
We were the #2 overall seed I believe. Michigan was the #3 or #4 overall seed.
Edit: I may be mistaken, this was just my memory of things. I'm sure there are other examples which would have made my point about conference championships and seeding but I didn't feel like actually doing the digging
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Here's a better example. In 2016 Indiana won the conference at 15-3, and was a 5 seed. MSU, 2nd place at 13-5 got a 2 seed. Purdue and Maryland, both 12-6 in Big Ten play also got 5 seeds.
To clarify my original point - I was not suggesting that the highest seed from a conference should be the regular season winner. I’m not sure how you extrapolated that.
All I asked, was when looking at the seedings, would “they are regular season conference champions in a P5 conference” ever come into play when evaluating, subjectively, as an evaluation of total body of work.
To me, winning a regular season championship in any of the power 5s takes a pretty decent total body of work. Now could you argue winning at this point is based on Nebraska pulling off a miracle, but I was just trying to understand if while seeding, that would ever weigh in on similar resumes to differentiate.
Baylor was #2 overall. But we were 3 and Michigan was #4.
That said - we did finish ahead of them in the conference standings by W-L approach
Right, and my answer was no. As any number of articles on the selection process would demonstrate. The instances of regular season winners getting lower seeds than other teams in the conference was just meant to further demonstrate the point. The conference standings are just not part of the resume. They don't matter. Of course the wins a conference winner generates are a huge part of the resume. But Nebraksa beating Wisconsin will not help our resume. It might help us leapfrog Wisconsin, but it won't improve our resume in comparison to other teams.
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4-Seed by CBS in this morning's update. I like this Midwest placement by Jerry Palm, with Auburn as the #1 seed.
However, I still think we're officially a 3-seed right now, having gone 3-1 (with wins AT MSU, AT MICH and vs PSU at home) since the Selection Committee officially announced their top 16 teams. And the OSU loss is a "good loss." A win vs. Iowa today should solidify that 3-seed heading into the BTT.
I get it. Objectively.
Though to be fair, in 2016 making Indiana a 5 seed was criminal. They were a top 15 team in the country and should’ve been a 4 (they did beat the 4 (UK) in that tournament.
Will the committee announce another top 16 before selection sunday? It's nice to see where we stand.
It’s a one time reveal per the ncaa website.
Ok that's different but the seed lines were the same.
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4-Seed by CBS in this morning's update. I like this Midwest placement by Jerry Palm, with Auburn as the #1 seed.
However, I still think we're officially a 3-seed right now, having gone 3-1 (with wins AT MSU, AT MICH and vs PSU at home) since the Selection Committee officially announced their top 16 teams. And the OSU loss is a "good loss." A win vs. Iowa today should solidify that 3-seed heading into the BTT.
Here are the records of the 3 seeds and 4 seeds since then, with net rankings of the teams they played.
#9 Villanova (3-1)
Wins: Georgetown 197, Providence 26, @Butler 128
Losses: @UConn 19
#10 Texas Tech (3-2)
Wins: @Texas 17, Oklahoma 42, KSU 71
Losses: @TCU 46, @OSU 45
#11 Tennessee (4-1)
Wins: @Mizzou 153, Auburn 10, @Georgia 211, Arkansas 22
Losses: @Arkansas 22
#12 Illinois (3-1)
Wins: @MSU 39, @Michian 34, PSU 93
Losses: OSU 21
#13 Wisconsin (4-0)
Wins: Michigan 34, @Minny 107, @Rutgers 76, Purdue 13
#14 UCLA (5-1)
Wins: Washington 118, ASU 96, @OSU 253, @Washington 118, USC 33
Losses: @Oregon 74
#15 Providence (3-1)
Wins: @Butler 128, Xavier 35, Creighton 65
Losses: @Nova 6
#16 Texas (2-3)
Wins: TCU 46, @WV 79
Losses: Texas Tech 12, Baylor 4, @Kansas 7
GrayGhost77
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Make that Wiscy 4-1 lol
lstewart53x3
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We win today & we’re a 3. Lose today & we’re likely a 4.
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