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zpfled

Logan Square, Chicago
The fact that you used the word "Big Ten average."

You need players, to be sure. But the coach needs to put those players in a position to win. Just look at what Keats did his first year at UNC-Willmington. He didn't have great talent overnight. He's a superior coach, at least for that level.

So you're saying that the average Big Ten coach is 'minimal to average' when compared to the field of college coaches?

Plus, Big Ten Average is not a word :p

In all seriousness, I didn't think it would be controversial to say that recruiting plays a bigger role in success at the college level than in game coaching.
 
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kuhl84

Orlando, FL
Monty would be great. Can't imagine any current recruit would not want the opportunity to play for him.

Credible coach. Give him a couple of strong recruiters and a strong administrator. Let him sell NBA dreams to borderline NBA talent.

Hope there is some legs to it.
 
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Keatts is extremely well spoken, but I'm still firmly in the Monty camp. Just a step up from Keatts.
 
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Monty would be great. Can't imagine any current recruit would not want the opportunity to play for him.

Credible coach. Give him a couple of strong recruiters and a strong administrator. Let him sell NBA dreams to borderline NBA talent.

Hope there is some legs to it.

I'm officially in the camp where I'd be ecstatic with this hire.
 
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Be nice to have a coach elevate the program.......

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UNC-Wilmington is dancing again. Kevin Keatts has won more games in the last 3 seasons than UNCW won the previous 8 years combined. ;)
 
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Keatts is extremely well spoken, but I'm still firmly in the Monty camp. Just a step up from Keatts.

I know there has been rumors around this and you have been touting Monty for a while, but do you think this really has legs? I'm firmly in the Monty camp as well.
 
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Is it too late to join the Keatts hype train? I think Keatts has the edge over Monty because he could come in day one and recruit where as for Monty it might take him some time.
 
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sdfidaho

Boise, Idaho
Is it too late to join the Keatts hype train? I think Keatts has the edge over Monty because he could come in day one and recruit where as for Monty it might take him some time.

What makes you say that?
I would be very happy with either of these coaches, and I believe they both have the "it" factor to get/keep recruiting rolling. Just curious why you think Keats has the edge.
Personally, I slightly hope for Keats more than Monty. Very slightly!
 
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The fact that you used the word "Big Ten average."

You need players, to be sure. But the coach needs to put those players in a position to win. Just look at what Keats did his first year at UNC-Willmington. He didn't have great talent overnight. He's a superior coach, at least for that level.

Big Ten Average is 3 words. :eek::eek::eek:
 
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Jkat00

Champaign, IL
I know there has been rumors around this and you have been touting Monty for a while, but do you think this really has legs? I'm firmly in the Monty camp as well.

No legs.

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I know there has been rumors around this and you have been touting Monty for a while, but do you think this really has legs? I'm firmly in the Monty camp as well.

I'm still firm that Monty is the one. I know over on another message board, they are saying that he's been contacted back door and that he has no interest in the college game. I think that is just merely smoke if true. The Hannah Storm interview says he wants back into coaching. The in laws wanting to come back to the Midwest, the oldest daughter at Wheaton, the Net Jets plane to PHX on 2/15 are all a lot of dots I know and may be nothing. I really like this video as did almost 500,000 others. Can you imagine showing this to a 5* recruit on how we develop big men. Some familiar faces in the video. I think the AA angle for both head FB and BB at one school would be interesting too. I can't think of too many schools where that would apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboQe01A3t0

Time will tell. In the meantime off to D.C. for some hoops and bonding with my 2 Illini grad sons.
P.S. just saw your post JKat--interesting!!
 
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CAHALL15

Central Illinois
What makes you say that?
I would be very happy with either of these coaches, and I believe they both have the "it" factor to get/keep recruiting rolling. Just curious why you think Keats has the edge.
Personally, I slightly hope for Keats more than Monty. Very slightly!

I'm good with either of those guys coming here. Keatts continues to produce results. Monty was an NBA player, got a bad Pelicans team to play D and get in the playoffs, and then the team USA connections can't hurt.
 
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TMC999

Not Iowa
Groce takes his 5 and beats himself. Then takes your 5 and beats himself.

They'd have to use a timeout because they wouldn't be able to get the ball inbounds....
 
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So you're saying that the average Big Ten coach is 'minimal to average' when compared to the field of college coaches?

Plus, Big Ten Average is not a word :p

In all seriousness, I didn't think it would be controversial to say that recruiting plays a bigger role in success at the college level than in game coaching.

At Illinois, and most schools, I think coaching is more important because you won't draw the kind of talent that transcends incompetent coaching. That's just my opinion though. I think if we get the right coach, we can be really good even with talent similar to what we have now at Illinois.
 
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I'm still firm that Monty is the one. I know over on another message board, they are saying that he's been contacted back door and that he has no interest in the college game. I think that is just merely smoke if true. The Hannah Storm interview says he wants back into coaching. The in laws wanting to come back to the Midwest, the oldest daughter at Wheaton, the Net Jets plane to PHX on 2/15 are all a lot of dots I know and may be nothing. I really like this video as did almost 500,000 others. Can you imagine showing this to a 5* recruit on how we develop big men. Some familiar faces in the video. I think the AA angle for both head FB and BB at one school would be interesting too. I can't think of too many schools where that would apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboQe01A3t0

Time will tell. In the meantime off to D.C. for some hoops and bonding with my 2 Illini grad sons.
P.S. just saw your post JKat--interesting!!

Really appreciate you taking the time to respond. Let's hope JKat is wrong. No offense JKat.
 
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Really appreciate you taking the time to respond. Let's hope JKat is wrong. No offense JKat.

You are welcome. JKat is well beyond me. He has not had that Archie aviator up for nothing. Like I say, time will tell.:)
 
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Doing nothing isn't an option given his contract, so extending Groce should be a tough sell, and indicate JW is all-in on Groce. Let's face it, if you extend Groce after this season, you're putting YOUR job on the line for him. If he hires someone new and it doesn't work out, he could very well a pass for circumstances, and get another shot at it.

I don't think the JW is even remotely putting his job on the line if he extends Groce. He has so much good will in the bank with the Lovie hire he is going to be able to do pretty much what he wants for the next few years. JW will make the calculation of how much of that good will he is willing to risk, and just how big of a net risk he would be taking (in keeping or firing Groce). I don't think it is an easy of a call as some of you.
 
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I think this coaching situation is layered. It starts Thursday but with some big donors having full confidence in JW deciding either way says a LOT. I don't think Coach Groce goes down without a fight either.
 
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Illini4Reel

Champaign, IL.
@Jkat00 Have you previously given us any insight on your views of the coaching position here? Have you said why you have a Archie Miller profile pic, sorry I cant remember.
 
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