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jrichisamazing

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brapp33 said:
While I know everyone is not pleased with Groce, I really hope he doesn't get booed Saturday when announced. With Tilmon and Smith in house that will not look good to either one of them.
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Agreed, and this doesn't go for just Groce. Booing any Illini just makes the program look terrible. There is no need for it.

As for Mark Smith, it is pretty easy to host him. It's just the same as Groce has been doing for all the other recruits. Sell his vision, show off the players he could be coming in with, tell him to stay home, and hope he takes the bait. But obviously at some point the on court success (or lack there of) will speak louder than Groce's vision.
 
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EJ33

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Jeremy Werner thinks Martin is going to Mizzou or Illinois.
 
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illininks

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EJ33 said:
Jeremy Werner thinks Martin is going to Mizzou or Illinois.
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While Martin's results don't blow your doors off, he has been consistently successful everywhere he's been as a HC. If a grand slam hire weren't out there I wouldn't be disappointed in him. He would definitely be an upgrade with him or Kruger.
 
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roger murdock

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We could do far worse than Martin, and the timing of having the ESL area being loaded the next few years with talent might be truly synergistic for both parties. If and when he leaves Cal, hopefully he does not end up at Mizzou. As Painter is showing this year, not every coach from the Keady tree wants to win games in the 50's, I would look for a definite upgrade in both the offensive and defensive schemes.
 
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If Washington fires Lorenzo Romar, I feel like Mizzou is desperate enough to go there in order to get Michael Porter Jr.

Though, maybe if you're Washington, why not just give it another spin with the #2 player in the class? What, are you going to the tournament next year with no Fultz or Porter? What's the difference?
 
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WesterveltVictoryCigar

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Second and Chalmers said:
If Washington fires Lorenzo Romar, I feel like Mizzou is desperate enough to go there in order to get Michael Porter Jr.

Though, maybe if you're Washington, why not just give it another spin with the #2 player in the class? What, are you going to the tournament next year with no Fultz or Porter? What's the difference?
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If they haven't fired him by now, not sure why they'd suddenly care enough to do so. It's a football school and they just made the playoffs, maybe that deflects enough heat to keep him around.
 
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roger murdock said:
We could do far worse than Martin, and the timing of having the ESL area being loaded the next few years with talent might be truly synergistic for both parties. If and when he leaves Cal, hopefully he does not end up at Mizzou. As Painter is showing this year, not every coach from the Keady tree wants to win games in the 50's, I would look for a definite upgrade in both the offensive and defensive schemes.
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+1

The Cuonzo Martin can't coach train and the Keatts hype train are reaching break neck speeds for some reason. There are other great candidates, but Martin is a great candidate as well.
 
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Second and Chalmers

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WesterveltVictoryCigar said:
If they haven't fired him by now, not sure why they'd suddenly care enough to do so. It's a football school and they just made the playoffs, maybe that deflects enough heat to keep him around.
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He's reached a new low in terms of wasting talent this year.

It is tough to send away a Jabari Parker type talent in Porter though, when you could always just fire Romar next year.

They should do it, but I won't be shocked if they don't.
 
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ChrisNMattoon

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Whatever happened to those "in the know" around here? Were they ran off? I truly miss those "rumors" whether they ended up being real or not... ha
 
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FollowTisdale

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ILHoff said:
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The Cuonzo Martin can't coach train and the Keatts hype train are reaching break neck speeds for some reason. There are other great candidates, but Martin is a great candidate as well.
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Martin is a darn good "Crap it's mid April we need someone to coach basketball next year" hire, not a good 1st choice to ignite a fanbase's hope. I won't be upset with a Cuonzo hire, not overwhelmed, just whelmed.

The Keatts Hype Train hit a cow named College Of Charleston on it's home tracks last night. Luckily, the cow catcher is only a little dented and should be making minced meat out of future foes in no time, all the way to the Sweet 16 and a house in Stone Creek
 
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Second and Chalmers

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Kajagoogoo said:
TCTORNADO keeps alluding to Colangelo basically making the next hire (which won't happen), but he also says the dude will be tied to Larry Brown somehow. Yet he won't follow up with any details. That's the point.
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Monty Williams played for Larry Brown and was picked as a USA Basketball assistant at the Rio Olympics by Jerry Colangelo :noidea:

Tim Jankovich was Larry Brown's handpicked workhorse and coach-in-waiting at SMU and has deep ties to both Bill Self and Lon Kruger, both of whom are well known by Colangelo from back when he was more actively involved as a booster, and Jankovich himself was briefly an Illini assistant during that time so he likely has met Colangelo. :noidea:
 
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Kajagoogoo

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Second and Chalmers said:
Monty Williams played for Larry Brown and was picked as a USA Basketball assistant at the Rio Olympics by Jerry Colangelo :noidea:

Tim Jankovich was Larry Brown's handpicked workhorse and coach-in-waiting at SMU and has deep ties to both Bill Self and Lon Kruger, both of whom are well known by Colangelo from back when he was more actively involved as a booster, and Jankovich himself was briefly an Illini assistant during that time so he likely has met Colangelo. :noidea:
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I can buy the Monty Williams hype, but there's no chance it's Jankovich. Whitman can't roll the dice like that. I'd just prefer to hear something concrete--even just a rumor that he's heard--than throwing out a name like "Colangelo" with no context to it. That's all. *falls off soapbox*
 
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LurkLongandProsper

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Werner's comment re: Martin really isn't anything new. We've been saying on this thread for like 80 pages that Mizzou and Illinois will be taking a close look at him.
 
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TCTORNADO

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Kajagoogoo said:
Good God, I know who Colangelo is. :tsk: *eye roll*

What does Colangelo have to do with the coaching search? That's the point. *gluh*

TCTORNADO keeps alluding to Colangelo basically making the next hire (which won't happen), but he also says the dude will be tied to Larry Brown somehow. Yet he won't follow up with any details. That's the point.
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Never said Colangelo will make the next hire, but he certainly will be consulted. Colangelo and Kahn are very close and if there's a buyout Kahn will be involved somehow. Wasn't Kahn seen with Whitman at a recent BB game and doesn't Kahn have a place in Naples, where JW was last weekend.?
You stick with your source saying that contact with Martin has been made and that Martin has expressed interest and I will stick with the field. And oh by the way Brown and Colangelo are friends. :D
 
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I'd be pretty disappointed if we hired Brown. The Colangelo thing is a little overblown, he's not very connected with CBB outside of his ties to coaches for team USA, and, well, my opinions on the NBA coaching options have been expressed
 
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FollowTisdale

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TCTORNADO said:
Never said Colangelo will make the next hire, but he certainly will be consulted. Colangelo and Kahn are very close and if there's a buyout Kahn will be involved somehow. Wasn't Kahn seen with Whitman at a recent BB game and doesn't Kahn have a place in Naples, where JW was last weekend.?
You stick with your source saying that contact with Martin has been made and that Martin has expressed interest and I will stick with the field. And oh by the way Brown and Colangelo are friends. :D
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I think I could connect just about anybody to Colangelo or Brown they've been around so long. So our next head coach is either Steve Nash, Tim Jankovich, or Michael Jordan.
 
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Kajagoogoo

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LurkLongandProsper said:
I'd be pretty disappointed if we hired Brown. The Colangelo thing is a little overblown, he's not very connected with CBB outside of his ties to coaches for team USA, and, well, my opinions on the NBA coaching options have been expressed
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I don't think TCT is hinting at a Larry Brown hire. I think he's saying that the hire has ties to Brown and will be endorsed by Colangelo (?). Jankovich doesn't fit that narrative. Maybe Monty Williams does?

I think I'd prefer Williams to Jankovich simply for the NBA ties and how well respected he is. But yes, I suppose he's a roll of the dice, too. All I'm saying is he's a gamble Whitman can take because it would be another splash hire, as opposed to Jankovich, who has little high-major experience (a rich man's Groce, kind of). *shrug*
 
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ChrisNMattoon

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With Lovie, JW had a middle man, Ron Turner. He got Lovie via his connection with Turner. Who are some of Whitman's other connections from which we can maybe draw some lines?
 
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Second and Chalmers

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The thing you could get from Larry Brown on Jankovich is, like, "I was too old to take on that job, I didn't really do anything except recruit Emmanuel Mudiay and Keith Frazier, neither of whom really made an impact. Tim did all the work."

I have no idea if that's really true. And even if it was true, it's not like you would hear that and just assign the last 4 years of SMU Basketball to Jankovich as if he was the head coach.

But it would be an interesting conversation to have. It's the conversation you'd want to have if you were thinking in that direction.
 
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