I can't understand how after just dealing with one coach who had limited experience as a head coach in any college league that now Keatts is considered a good pick. Have we learned nothing from the past 5 years?
Those were all lead pipe locks compared to Leicester City winning the Premier League. 5000-1 odds, the same as a 16 seed winning the entire NCAA tournament. The biggest upset in sports history by a mile.
It bothers me that they aren't getting mentioned in all these "year of crazy outcome" takes.
Cuonzo is definitely more inspiring than Groce, but if he did with us what he's done with his teams over the last 8 years as HC, we would not be pleased. NCAA tourney bids 2 of last 8 years, with 3 NITs, 1 CIT, and 2 no shows. 1 sweet 16, 1 first round exit. We're assuming he'd do better with our platform, but some decent coaches (including Weber, also out of the Keady family) have done better *away* from our platform. If he's hired, I'll hope he can recruit like hell. But I won't be inspired. (Keatts OTOH has done extremely well wherever he's been. We don't know what he'll do on our level, but at least we're not assuming he'd do something *differently* here that he hasn't shown before.)
I can't understand how after just dealing with one coach who had limited experience as a head coach in any college league that now Keatts is considered a good pick. Have we learned nothing from the past 5 years?
I assure you our fanbase can stomach a UNCW type coach coming in if he's the next Bill Self.
We don't even remember what winning feels like anymore, do we?
I may be misunderstanding, but Weber has done better elsewhere than here?
I wouldn't call what he's done at KSU as major success at all. He's been solidly mediocre there, too.
has basically achieved same level of success at Kansas State as the level he ultimately took us to.
What's the buyout on the new extensions ?
As to the rumors of Monty Williams, I find it hard to believe that Whitman would approach Walker at this time to discuss staying on under Williams. That puts Walker in a terrible position and the coaching community likely wouldn't be too happy with that. I just don't think Whitman would do that to Walker. Also, I don't see them firing Groce before the BIG tourney.
"If Martin chooses to leave Cal before April 14, 2017, he would pay the university $1.1 million. That falls to $1 million if he leaves between April 15, 2017 and April 14, 2018. If Martin leaves between April 15, 2018 and April 14, 2019, he would owe Cal $750,000."
Wait, I didn't dream us going 73-7 from mid 04 to mid 06, did I? That really happened, right?
Who? Les Lancaster? Didn't he pitch for the Cubs at some point in his career?Agree completely. Leicester winning the EPL was the greatest sporting accomplishment of my lifetime, not just 2016. And I'm old.
I wouldn't call what he's done at KSU as major success at all. He's been solidly mediocre there, too.
I can't understand how after just dealing with one coach who had limited experience as a head coach in any college league that now Keatts is considered a good pick. Have we learned nothing from the past 5 years?
The next coach certainly has some more advantages in being able to get the program back to being a top tier B1G program. Newly renovated arena, an AD who is well-respected, etc.
Also if we can get everyone to stay, we've definitely got some solid pieces that could propel us onto a nice 2-3 year run to kick off the new coaches tenure. 0 seniors on next year's roster.
Projected starters:
Lucas
JCL
Kipper
Leron
Tilmon
Off bench:
Frazier
Jordan/Damonte
DJW
Finke
(Hopefully Epperson or a grad transfer)
Pickett
(Hopefully Smith)
If that roster goes on a nice 2-3 year run, it can generate the momentum that this program needs to propel it back into the top 15 year in and year out.
The program isn't as dead in the water as some casual fans want you to believe.
Agree completely. Leicester winning the EPL was the greatest sporting accomplishment of my lifetime, not just 2016. And I'm old.
The next coach certainly has some more advantages in being able to get the program back to being a top tier B1G program. Newly renovated arena, an AD who is well-respected, etc.
Also if we can get everyone to stay, we've definitely got some solid pieces that could propel us onto a nice 2-3 year run to kick off the new coaches tenure. 0 seniors on next year's roster.
Projected starters:
Lucas
JCL
Kipper
Leron
Tilmon
Off bench:
Frazier
Jordan/Damonte
DJW
Finke
(Hopefully Epperson or a grad transfer)
Pickett
(Hopefully Smith)
If that roster goes on a nice 2-3 year run, it can generate the momentum that this program needs to propel it back into the top 15 year in and year out.
The program isn't as dead in the water as some casual fans want you to believe.
Weber is going to be fired from K-State, and relatively soon, because he's just a so-so major conference basketball coach. So-so isn't good enough for Illinois, and in time it won't be good enough for Kansas State.
I am excited about Frazier and Tilmon but this team will not be competitive next year. These aren't the kind of recruits that are going to be difference makers immediately. If you are expecting anything from Jordan or Williams I think you are kidding yourself. There is a reason they aren't getting minutes on a team that is desperately searching for anything. You can draw up all the X's and O's you want and. Ext year is going to painful. Hopefully another recruiting class and these incoming freshmen becoming sophomores will provide a chance in 18-19.
Greg LeMond winning the 1989 Tour De France sticks out in my mind. He was down by 50 seconds at the start of the last day. He came back during the final day by gaining at least 2 seconds per km, beating a rather smug Laurent Fignon by a grand total of 8 seconds, which was predicted by exactly ZERO people.