Oh sure.
Not by everybody though. He was #1 on my list, even ahead of Shaka at the time. (I didn't include Stevens though)
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Oh sure.
Not by everybody though. He was #1 on my list, even ahead of Shaka at the time. (I didn't include Stevens though)
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
Bill Frieder....
Technically true, but he had taken another job before he was fired.
Bo Ryan is not coming back to coach in the B1G. Also, for accuracy, Bo Ryan has not filled a lawsuit against Wisconsin over his affair. The woman involved has, accusing UW of defamation.
These 2 resumes don't look that different but o were the results.
Kim Anderson was a D1 assistant for about 15 years at Mizzou and Baylor. He took over a D2 program, won 75% of his games, won a D2 national championship and had several final 4s. Returned to his alma mater where he was worshipped and went down in flames in a weak basketball conference. Melissa Click and all that stuff notwithstanding.
Bo Ryan won 81% of his games at D3 and 4 national titles but it was D3. Had two very mediocre years at UWM and was hired at UW. I remember it well. Kohl had just been built and Wisc was shooting for a star. Ryan was not first choice, or second, or third. When he was hired I remember a national writer saying that Wisc thought they could parlay their new digs into a top tier coach but none were interested and they (his words) "finally settled on Bo Ryan". It was almost condescending.
Hiring coaches is a crap shoot normally and sometimes dumb luck is part of it but not counting interims, I have seen 8 athletic directors and JW strikes me as the best and maybe by a lot. I trust in JW
Kim Anderson was a D1 assistant for about 15 years at Mizzou and Baylor. He took over a D2 program, won 75% of his games, won a D2 national championship and had several final 4s. Returned to his alma mater where he was worshipped and went down in flames in a weak basketball conference. Melissa Click and all that stuff notwithstanding.
Bo Ryan won 81% of his games at D3 and 4 national titles but it was D3. Had two very mediocre years at UWM and was hired at UW. I remember it well. Kohl had just been built and Wisc was shooting for a star. Ryan was not first choice, or second, or third. When he was hired I remember a national writer saying that Wisc thought they could parlay their new digs into a top tier coach but none were interested and they (his words) "finally settled on Bo Ryan". It was almost condescending.
Hiring coaches is a crap shoot normally and sometimes dumb luck is part of it but not counting interims, I have seen 8 athletic directors and JW strikes me as the best and maybe by a lot. I trust in JW
Serious Late
- Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
The Keatts discussion is interesting, albeit re-hashing the same conversation held time and time again over the last few months.
Why are we not talking more about Archie Miller? Is this just pipe-dream land? Have we conceded that he is either going to NC State, Indiana or staying put? Archie Miller is a 100% no-brainer, if humanly possible, pleaseohpleaseohplease type hire.
Kenpom Rankings:
2004 (Gregory): 71
2005 (Gregory: 111
2006 (Gregory): 131
2007 (Gregory): 122
2008 (Gregory): 62
2009 (Gregory): 77
2010 (Gregory): 26
2011 (Gregory): 97
Gregory Average: 87
2012 (Miller): 69
2013 (Miller): 67
2014 (Miller): 42
2015 (Miller): 42
2016 (Miller): 59
2017 (Miller): 34
Archie Miller Average: 52
I think what is so interesting about this, is how CONSISTENTLY excellent Miller has been. My signature has been my signature since Weber and I have not once felt cause to change it.
Dayton just came back from 16 down against Davidson on NBC Sports, FYI. 2 minutes to go, up 3.
Why are we not talking more about Archie Miller? Is this just pipe-dream land? Have we conceded that he is either going to NC State, Indiana or staying put? Archie Miller is a 100% no-brainer, if humanly possible, pleaseohpleaseohplease type hire.
Kenpom Rankings:
2004 (Gregory): 71
2005 (Gregory: 111
2006 (Gregory): 131
2007 (Gregory): 122
2008 (Gregory): 62
2009 (Gregory): 77
2010 (Gregory): 26
2011 (Gregory): 97
Gregory Average: 87
2012 (Miller): 69
2013 (Miller): 67
2014 (Miller): 42
2015 (Miller): 42
2016 (Miller): 59
2017 (Miller): 34
Archie Miller Average: 52
I think what is so interesting about this, is how CONSISTENTLY excellent Miller has been. My signature has been my signature since Weber and I have not once felt cause to change it.
Dayton just came back from 16 down against Davidson on NBC Sports, FYI. 2 minutes to go, up 3.
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
Speaking personally, yeah.
Agree with Matt. I think you have to at least call Miller and Bennett, but don't really see either of them being interested.
Serious Late
- Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
Annnnnnnnnnnnnd Dayton loses.
Gimme, gimme, gimme Archie Miller. When we can't do that, let's debate whether Krystkowiak will leave the West for Champaign!
Collins is the first of K's former players that has worked out. Wojo is looking pretty good too. But, Amaker, Dawkins, and Capel failed. (Brey is not a former player so I'm not including him).
It's a crapshoot.
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I don't personally feel as though Miller is in the same realm as Bennett. Primarily, I don't think Bennett is going anywhere. He may play the field to garner a raise at Virginia, but he is turning that job into a destination job.
Miller, on the other hand, is likely moving on as soon as he finds the right fit. It is unfortunate that NC State and Indiana are open this off-season, as that puts Illinois 3rd in the pecking order for Miller. However, who knows. Maybe he doesn't mesh with their ADs and hits it off phenomenally well with Whitman. That is the only realistic scenario I see here, but not completely out of the realm of possibility.
Guys, do not make this about "Illinois isn't good enough".
Archie to NC State has been a lead pipe lock this whole time.
Think of how we'd laugh and make fun of other programs fans who thought we wouldn't get a Lucas Johnson in the same sort of situation. Archie is that kind of figure at NC State. It's a done deal.
I honestly find this hard to believe. His resume was so different from Keatts', the resume that has you losing your mind, that it does not make sense that Collins would have excited you.
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He's apparently teaching high school now. A friend met him at some teacher conference thing. Not sure if he's coaching as well, you'd figure he'd be exactly the high school basketball coach type.
I liked him as a player, but not sure I'd want him teaching my kids.
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Serious Late
- Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
Ubermensch
BOOM! Feed my ego.
Another name I'm not necessarily endorsing: King Rice. What's the word on him? Seems like a guy to keep an eye on. 35-5 in the Metro the last two years. Dean Smith guy.
Jkat00
- Champaign, IL
Are you saying Archie to NC State is a lock?
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Kind of funny that (from what little I have read) a lot of NC State fans don't exactly like their chances with Archie.
Serious Late
- Peoria via Denver via Ann Arbor via Albuquerque vi
I would love to read up more on the Archie rumors. Any links to articles, message board threads or tweets are much sppreciated!
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Great post
I've seen a few articles, I blame it on proximity of UNCW and NCST.
There were also rumors tying Shaka to Champaign. Truly wont know until a big name reports its happening.
Jkat00
- Champaign, IL
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