Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Thank you for the history lesson. I'm only 50, so your knowledge is appreciated.
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Thank you for the history lesson. I'm only 50, so your knowledge is appreciated.
I'm almost 49. If you consider me an youngster, first I'm honored. Second, is this Loren Tate?
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
This is worth looking at...
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
Memory may be fuzzy, but didn't Lavin have a decent run at UCLA?
Edit, Lavin led UCLA to 5/6 sweet sixteens, and beat #1 team in the country 4 straight years. I could take that type of failure for a while. Just saying.
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Illiini
- In the land of the Nittany Lion
Oh, that's a dreadful article. Dreadful not in the way it's written, but rather the content. It's very well written. You have to feel for John walking off that plane. "Now's not the time."
Out of mercy, let him play out the season with his team, if only so the guy doesn't leave with a 20 point rout. Who knows, maybe the Illini run the NIT. Still wouldn't be enough to keep JG. That's a given. Everyone knows it.
No matter what happens, nothing's going to change. Let him coach. Sending him off early won't make anything better. I don't think JW has that little class.
I am now on the Marshall bandwagon. Open up the check book. The new media deal will add several million dollars per year. Marshall or Bennett. So what better way to judge a coach for his coaching skills than looking at his conference record. Marshall had to recruit against, the play against, other Big South schools, and later MVC schools. He won at the Big South level and at the MVC level. Bennett, he had to recruit against and play against PAC and ACC schools.
Marshall Winthrop (Big South) 104-24 (.813) WSU (MVC) 132-46 (.742)
Bennett Wash St (PAC) 32-22 (.593) Virginia (ACC) 88-50 (.638)
C. Martin Missouri St (MVC) 28-28 (.481) Tennessee (SEC) 32-20 (.615) California (PAC) 28.24 (.538)
B. Williams Marquette (Big East) 69-39 (.639) Virg Tech 23-32 (.407)
A. Miller Dayton (A10) 68-34 (.667)
Keatts UNWC (CAA) 41-13 (.759)
F. Martin K State 50-32 (.610) S. Carolina (SEC) 38-52 (.422)
Krystkowiak Montana (Big Sky) 19-9 (.679) Utah (PAC) 49-50 (.495)
Musselman Nevada (Mt West) 24-12 (.667)
Jankovich N. Texas St (Southland/Big West) 35-35 (.500) ISU (MVC) 48-42 (.533) SMU (AAC) 17-1 (.944)
Marshall Winthrop (Big South) 104-24 (.813) WSU (MVC) 132-46 (.742)
Bennett Wash St (PAC) 32-22 (.593) Virginia (ACC) 88-50 (.638)
C. Martin Missouri St (MVC) 28-28 (.481) Tennessee (SEC) 32-20 (.615) California (PAC) 28.24 (.538)
B. Williams Marquette (Big East) 69-39 (.639) Virg Tech 23-32 (.407)
A. Miller Dayton (A10) 68-34 (.667)
Keatts UNWC (CAA) 41-13 (.759)
F. Martin K State 50-32 (.610) S. Carolina (SEC) 38-52 (.422)
Krystkowiak Montana (Big Sky) 19-9 (.679) Utah (PAC) 49-50 (.495)
Musselman Nevada (Mt West) 24-12 (.667)
Jankovich N. Texas St (Southland/Big West) 35-35 (.500) ISU (MVC) 48-42 (.533) SMU (AAC) 17-1 (.944)
Illinithad
- Northeast Missouri
Marshall is on everybody's wish list, including ours the last time around. I don't think it's going to happen.
Illwinsagain
- Cary, IL
I think, based on his comments, he'll look around this time. Maybe not us, but somewhere, or he'll stay at WSU for several more years. Got to take a look around now and then when you are not in your dream job.
Hmmmmm......JKat what happened
Letting Groce coach while jobs are open around the country including Missouri is a terrible idea.
Right, it take me longer to figure things out. Last time around was Thomas, and I am hoping the increased Big Ten money might help. I am not on the C. Martin train, I'd rather roll the dice with Keatts.
Marshall likely waiting for Roy to retire at UNC. He's set at Wichita at $3.3MM plus bonuses. Wichita charters to all away games, Marshall has a couple courtesy cars, a golf club membership, a country club membership and a health club membership thrown in for fun.
Wichita is probably one year from bolting from the MVC to a better conference.
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
I don't think we can read much into a coach not wanting to move to Alabama.
Don't think we have any shot at Marshall, which is too bad. He stayed at Winthrop for a long time and has stayed at Wichita State for a long time, so he has shown he's not going to pick up and move for any old job. Hoping he doesn't end up at Indiana because he could keep them consistently good.
But I'm hoping Wichita State gets maybe a 9 seed, gets bounced by a team like UNC early in double OT, and he just decides it's time to move on. He'd be my #1 home-run splash hire (c'mon, Billy Donovan is unicorn squared).
Question about Marshall for those who think Illini can get him. What annual salary would it take?
Ubermensch
BOOM! Feed my ego.
He won't even take a call from UI for less than 6/24.
Not sure that's the merciful option.
Josh Whitman isn't the only party to that relationship that has a coaching carousel to think about, remember.
sacraig
- The desert
For all we know he has been fired and they just won't make it public until he breaks the news to the team and whatnot.
Or maybe he hasn't been.
Great point..
Interesting scenario I was thinking about earlier..Say Archie leaves Dayton to a job somewhere else. Would Dayton be the type of program that could go after Groce?
Wichita State has the Koch Brothers who can keep him there. And he loves it in Wichtia. That's a pipe-dream.
chrisRunner7
- Spokane, WA
No name is off the radar in this thread anymore... heck, even Jon Scheyer evidently stopped by earlier to float his own name out there for consideration.
Most of the comments I recall about Hoiberg were that the Bulls' season won't be over until mid-April, not including playoffs if they get that far, and that it'd be too long of a wait to hire him.
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I think he will need to go a bit lower than that. That the job is in Ohio makes it interesting, but ultimately I think Dayton is too strong of a program to take a coach who has been struggling. Regardless of the level that he is struggling at.
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