A three-day rollout of a firing is not a thing. It will break instantly once it happens.
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A three-day rollout of a firing is not a thing. It will break instantly once it happens.
There will be the hottest of takes about the cravenness of this if it happens, I'm telling you.
It always happens on a Wednesday
And after dark.
Xfactr
- Lake Forest, IL
1%? That's being hopeful.
1. I think JW will make an announcement Monday.
2. This gives JG an opportunity to look for work. Also gives us the ability to see which assistant may stay on, and what his coaching abilities are in the NIT.
3. I'm hoping Indiana retains Crean. It will be hard to compete with an opening in Bloomington.
4. I like Miller and Keatts. Those are the two I would want. However JW may go for something else. Maybe an NBA asst or previous HC.
It immediately ran better in brief moments because he did not make giving the keys to Lucas a priority. He then downplayed him and spoon fed him minutes until he had no choice but to play him more.
Expect a Monday press conference with both John Groce and Josh Whitman at the podium. Should get a leak tomorrow after 5:00.
If that happens then the servers for this board are going to go up in flames.
Wait, so you're sticking by the retention story?
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
*checks post history*
Huh. You have no love for Groce, yet this statement smacks of a retention. Sounds like you've heard some :gossip:
The idea of leaking that he's staying moments after we clinch four straight years out of the tournament, Whitman isn't that stupid.
BZuppke
- Plainfield
Ron Guenther fired Ron Turner and Turner was at the press conference. Not sure what the poster meant but having Groce there is actually a very classy way to handle it for both parties. Groce should say that he loves Illinois etc but that he realizes he didn't win enough and that is what counts.
illinoisfan11
- Peoria, IL
I'd say that's highly likely. Whitman and Groce obviously like each other as have a lot of respect for each other. So why not do the presser together. Let Groce say his final goodbyes/thanks to the team and fans. I think it'd be very classy.
That weirds me out. That's like breaking up with a girl at her parent's house or something. I didn't remember that was the case with Turner, but that's pretty classic RG and RT, for better or worse. Both mentors of Whitman, I get it.
But like, it's not 2004 anymore. A little goodbye get-together with Loren Tate and Mark Tupper is not what these things are in the modern age.
Plus Groce obviously thinks he should stay, not that Turner didn't necessarily, but the level of finality in that situation was different.
I don't like this idea.
Foggy Notion
- San Francisco
2004 is not part of the modern age?
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
It's completely reasonable to think that Groce respects Whitmans position and the decision to part ways, and agrees that the program needs a new direction.
As classy as they both are, and as much as is on the line (not just our program, but Groce's next job) I think it would be an acceptable strategy by both parties.
As classy as they both are, and as much as is on the line (not just our program, but Groce's next job) I think it would be an acceptable strategy by both parties.
I think what he's trying to say is that even since 2004 we've seen more pressure on coaches to win often and quickly. Which I agree with.
In terms of the media? Not remotely.
2004 was more similar to 1964 than 2014 in terms of the media landscape.
If the press conference was awkward and depressing in 2004, there would be a ten second clip of it on the evening news in local markets and it would never be seen again.
Trent Frazier in Wellington, FL is going to watch the entirety of whatever announcement is coming live streaming and then replayed on YouTube as often as necessary, with anything notable flooding into his twitter mentions 50 times. It's a whole new world.
Jeremy Foley and Will Muschamp did this at Florida and it worked out really well. Foley looked good, Florida looked good, and Muschamp looked really good too. I think this situation is very similar and could work out well. Whitman gets a chance to talk about what a fantastic person Groce is, how he did things the right way, and then Groce gets a chance to talk about how he understands he just didn't win enough. It's a clean break.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Well, if there's two guys with the in-front-of-the-camera skills to pull it off, it's Whitman and Groce.
Whatever, we just need credible, stable leadership for the basketball program ASAP.
jkat is one of the few I really trust on here.
Jkat00
- Champaign, IL
Thanks for the kind words Kathy. To the person you were responding to. No I'm not Alex Roux
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