DoubtfulAll great posts problem is even if they only win one more game Lovie will be back.
DoubtfulAll great posts problem is even if they only win one more game Lovie will be back.
Agree, but we'd been to b2b bowls before.He brought a good staff. Talent. The guy took us to the rose bowl. And back to back bowls for the first time ever.
Tennessee is a job at which it's possible to have legit national championship aspirations, but that is also the expectation level of the school and the fanbase and there are major, major hurdles to meeting that expectation level.
Illinois does not have nearly that high of ceiling in the medium term. What we do have though is exceedingly low expectations among fans and critically the college football community at large, and basically nothing standing in the way of achieving them. Which is good in two ways, first, having a clear path to success, but also, being seen as successful at a place like Illinois could be a springboard to the elite of the elite, jobs where national titles are more achievable than at Tennessee.
Tennessee is a dilapidated house on the nicest street in town. Illinois is in the slums but with good bones and move-in ready. As they say in real estate, location, location, location.
Chris Ash is out at Rutgers.
Reunion with Greg Schiano possible?
Already been reported that Schiano has left the Pats to go back to RutgersRutgers will pay Ash a $7.5 million buyout, for reference.
Yeah, feels kinda inevitable.
What will be a huge kick in the balls if Schiano comes in and beats us now.
8.47 million for the buyout.
No excuses for financial reasons now.
Just for my own sanity here. What is considered a high buyout nowadays? This seems like a fairly high number for someone like us or Rutgers to pay but I’m apparently wrong.
Just for clarity on the Ash one, it's $8.47MM because they owe him the rest of this season's salary. $7.5MM is what they owe beyond this season when they have a new coach.
And it obviously depends a bit by school, but I'd say you're getting into high buyout range there, especially for Rutgers. Bret Bielema got 12 from Arkansas, Larry Fedora got 12 from UNC, Jim Mora got 12 from UCLA, Bobby Petrino got over 14 from Louisville, which is I think the largest ever actually paid.
Lovie's stands at $4 million. That's low for the industry in 2019, especially considering that's only one year's worth of his total salary.
Whatever people may have said publicly, the terms of Lovie's contract made very clear that for the first three years firing wasn't a possibility (the buyout was $12.6 million last year), but thereafter it was.
If Whitman wants to move on, Lovie's gone, the buyout won't stand in his way.
For the bolded I know it’s not public record because notre dame is private, but wasn’t Charlie Weis’s buyout said to be around 20M?
I'm having trouble finding a buyout that's been paid in recent years lower than Lovie's $4 million.
David Beaty's at Kansas was $3MM, which is very much the exception that proves the rule. He was there because he was cheap.
Purdue paid Darrell Hazell $4.4MM, Iowa State paid Paul Rhoads $4.6MM, the numbers have all gone up along the same scale salaries have.
I think IU only owes Tom Allen like $2MM if they fire him this year, that's the only other low one I could find.
I just have a hunch he goes to Michigan for a few years.Any chance we could convince Les Miles to jump ship at Kansas?
Any chance we could convince Les Miles to jump ship at Kansas?
I just have a hunch he goes to Michigan for a few years.
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I just have a hunch he goes to Michigan for a few years.
I’d take that bet. Michigan will aiming a lot higher, all due respect to Les.
As for Rutgers, Schiano or no, they’ve got a big time mountain to climb. That roster has no real talent outside of the sophomore QB that Ash has ruined.
And to think.......Rutgers had verbal commitments at one time from Saquon Barkley and Jonathan Taylor (at different times).
A lot of talent in New Jersey and surrounding areas. But they get virtually none of it.
I'm having trouble finding a buyout that's been paid in recent years lower than Lovie's $4 million.
David Beaty's at Kansas was $3MM, which is very much the exception that proves the rule. He was there because he was cheap.
Purdue paid Darrell Hazell $4.4MM, Iowa State paid Paul Rhoads $4.6MM, the numbers have all gone up along the same scale salaries have.
I think IU only owes Tom Allen like $2MM if they fire him this year, that's the only other low one I could find.