USC is going through coaches faster than us and/or the Raiders
Rittenberg lists Fickell, Franklin, Fleck on a "short list" (maybe the rolodex is stuck at F)
would love to see Fleck try his "row the boat" schtick out there!!
I'll second that nomination.Fleck is a great fit for them.
His schtick would fall flat in five minutes in that market with that level of recruit.Fleck is a great fit for them.
His schtick would fall flat in five minutes in that market with that level of recruit.
USC is not a hard hat, lunch pail, blue collar football program. USC is Hollywood.
They all wish they had their “Ryan Day”, only losing once in the regular season (against Oregon last sat). They want to dominate and then March into the playoffs. They haven’t been relevant in the playoffs or nations championship for a while and find that completely unacceptable.I don’t follow USC at all. 46-24 (.657) in his 6+ seasons there. Went undefeated in the regular season as recently as last year. Took over after the complete chaos of the Kiffin and Sarkesian eras.
What am I missing here?
He couldn't accomplish anything against Lovie's defense.Looks like the perfect job for Urban Meyer. After yesterday, he might be available.
Like others have said, expectations are the main reason. Helton was never supposed to have the interim tag taken from his title, because he really wasn’t a great fit — southern guy in SoCal. But after winning conference in first year, the players wanted him and USC AD (believe it was Haden) had all kinds of problems and gave job to him before running much if any kind of search. Then 3 years later he had the audacity of finishing under .500 and compounded it with bringing in a overall recruiting class of 20 (4th in conf.) followed by a class that was 64th overall and 12th in Pac 12. USC doesn’t finish under .500 and doesn’t fail to recruit well — especially in its own backyard. He also had the audacity to lose quite a few of their top out of conference games (think he only beat ND once, but sure he had losing record against Irish). A lot of people thought new AD would make change after 2019 season, but he had all kinds of other fires to put out in the athletic department, so he decided to wait on Helton until he could give him a thorough look of his own. So when a guy who wasn’t really a good fit culturally and not considered a great coach overall loses to Stanford 42-28 at home (a Stanford team that lost to Kansas St. at home the week before while scoring only 7 points), AD said he had seen enough. Helton just didn’t seem like the guy who could make them consistent winners at the top of the conference — giving them real chance at playoffs every year.I don’t follow USC at all. 46-24 (.657) in his 6+ seasons there. Went undefeated in the regular season as recently as last year. Took over after the complete chaos of the Kiffin and Sarkesian eras.
What am I missing here?
Big difference between A schtick and THAT schtick. Just to pick the most obvious surface-level thing, no way is USC putting a dang oar on their uniforms, nor should they.USC is Hollywood yet you don't think a schtick is important?
USC signed the 64th ranked recruiting class in the country in 2020. That's almost impossible, imagine Ohio State randomly going 1-11 some season.I don’t follow USC at all. 46-24 (.657) in his 6+ seasons there. Went undefeated in the regular season as recently as last year. Took over after the complete chaos of the Kiffin and Sarkesian eras.
What am I missing here?
Another fun factoid, #1 Bama and #2 Georgia are both helmed by 5-star LA-area QB's who decommitted from and transferred away from USC, respectively.
The Bryce Young decommit hurt, but to be fair JT Daniels leaving is the same thing that is happening all over country — lose starting job and transfer. Daniels wasn’t exactly lighting it on fire at USC. Can’t remember if he lost his job to injury or not, but Slovis has put up good numbers.Another fun factoid, #1 Bama and #2 Georgia are both helmed by 5-star LA-area QB's who decommitted from and transferred away from USC, respectively.
I think JT got hurt and then Slovis showed enough to keep him the starter.The Bryce Young decommit hurt, but to be fair JT Daniels leaving is the same thing that is happening all over country — lose starting job and transfer. Daniels wasn’t exactly lighting it on fire at USC. Can’t remember if he lost his job to injury or not, but Slovis has put up good numbers.
If USC calls, no way Campbell stays in Ames. He would absolutely kill it there.I think JT got hurt and then Slovis showed enough to keep him the starter.
I would hope Fickell stays at Cincinnati. I think only job he leaves Cincy for is Ohio State and with Cincy's move to Big12, I would think that he stays put and builds his roster up for Big 12 competition.
Matt Campbell's name has been thrown in the list of candidates as well. I think he stays at ISU and sees the build through with only exception being NFL gig?
Stoops in my opinion seems like the name that USC would go for.
If USC calls, no way Campbell stays in Ames. He would absolutely kill it there.
Definitely!I just remember right around Beckman’s first game against Western Michigan, either right before or right after, one of the local beat reporters got to talking to some of the WMU press and they told him, “You guys hired the wrong guy off of that staff.”
I seem to recall the local beat reporter got skewered for revealing that publicly, but the WMU guys ended up being so right.
It ended up a horrible indictment of Thomas’ vetting process when stuff like that was floating out there just as Beckman’s first game was being played. Made you wonder if he did any background work on Beckman at all.
I'm not sure what ended up being the worse hire - Tepper, Beckman or Lovie? Tepper inherited a top 3 or 4 program in the Big 10 and ran it into the ground, so probably have to go with him. Lovie was a massive disappointment and had an opportunity to do much better than he did, so he comes next. Beckman's /Cubit's record was not far off where his predecessor finished, so I guess I'd put him third on this list.Definitely!
Beckman was more of a CEO type of coach who loved to micro-manage. Toledo got better after Beckman left. Unfortunately for us, we got worse.
Coach O's days at LSU are numbered. He is the perfect guy to get top talent just not necessarily the guy you want steering the ship. As for USC you are right on the poor leadership, Clay should have been canned 2 years ago.Ed Orgeron was the D Line coach under Pete Carroll and recruited LA like no other. During the crisis years, he became interim head coach and went something like 6-2. The players would run through a brick wall for him. But the USC boosters didn't want him because he wasn't like them. So what did he do? Win the national championship at LSU. The other problem at USC was the succession of bad athletic directors.
I'm not sure what ended up being the worse hire - Tepper, Beckman or Lovie? Tepper inherited a top 3 or 4 program in the Big 10 and ran it into the ground, so probably have to go with him. Lovie was a massive disappointment and had an opportunity to do much better than he did, so he comes next. Beckman's /Cubit's record was not far off where his predecessor finished, so I guess I'd put him third on this list.