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FinallyMadeAnAccount
BretMyBeachHouse said:
LOL.

First, I don't much care about whether we win the BTT title. and projecting three games into a tourney is a bit of a fools errand.

Second, how is playing Purdue at any point during the BTT tournament "getting screwed". With the leader in the Big Ten right now with 4 losses, we really had our destiny in our own hands. We didn't get the job done so we are getting the seed that we deserve.
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I could've worded it a bit better but I said if Wisconsin wins, we'd get screwed out of the B1G title, I never said screwed for anything Purdue-related.
 
#28      
BretMyBeachHouse
21ChampaignSt said:
I could be misremembering but I think I recall the committee admitting last year that the result of the BTT championship did not factor into their seeding decisions. I don't know if that's because Illinois already had a 1 seed wrapped up win or lose. Or if they just never consider the BTT championship game. If it's the latter, then their process feels flawed to me.
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They've made it very clear that conferences that hold their championship on Sunday would possibly be causing themselves problems. They have a lot of work to do and trying to rework everything at the last minute because of the conference championship game is not really feasible.

They would probably say we are flawed in how we do it. Big 12, ACC, and Big East all hold their championships on Saturday. That's an option for us that we aren't taking and there is potentially a price.
 
#29      
GBIllini
BretMyBeachHouse said:
They've made it very clear that conferences that hold their championship on Sunday would possibly be causing themselves problems. They have a lot of work to do and trying to rework everything at the last minute because of the conference championship game is not really feasible.

They would probably say we are flawed in how we do it. Big 12, ACC, and Big East all hold their championships on Saturday. That's an option for us that we aren't taking and there is potentially a price.
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Not to mention one more day of rest going into the ncaa tourney.
 
#31      
JFGsCoffeeMug
21ChampaignSt said:
I could be misremembering but I think I recall the committee admitting last year that the result of the BTT championship did not factor into their seeding decisions. I don't know if that's because Illinois already had a 1 seed wrapped up win or lose. Or if they just never consider the BTT championship game. If it's the latter, then their process feels flawed to me.
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It's possible that last year's BTT championship result didn't factor into seeding, but I've also heard them say they aren't afraid to prepare two sets of brackets to account for different outcomes. It all depends on who's playing in the championship game. If a team like Michigan wins the BTT, that's going to affect their seeding and whether they'll even make the tournament.
 
#33      
Rocky
Tonight's Big Ten and AP Top 25 games - all times EST


6:30 PM: Providence (9) at Villanova (11), Tennessee (13) at Georgia
7:00 PM: Ole Miss at Kentucky (7), Nebraska at OSU (22)
7:30 PM: MSU at Michigan
8:00 PM: Duke (4) at Pitt, Kansas (6) at TCU, Cincinnati at Houston (15)
9:00 PM: Purdue (8) at Wisconsin (10)
11:00PM: Arizona (2) at USC (16)
 
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Point-Illinois
21ChampaignSt said:
I could be misremembering but I think I recall the committee admitting last year that the result of the BTT championship did not factor into their seeding decisions. I don't know if that's because Illinois already had a 1 seed wrapped up win or lose. Or if they just never consider the BTT championship game. If it's the latter, then their process feels flawed to me.
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Hopefully they’d leave room to factor it in somehow, what if a team on the wrong side of the bubble makes a run and does just enough to get in…or even wins it?

That would mess with their whole plan if they don’t factor it in at all.

Maybe they do a contingency bracket with that Cinderella team added just in case?
 
#35      
SuperintendentChalmers
Regardless of the occasional seeding complication, the last game before the bracket announcement is the best TV slot there is, kind of like the Rose Bowl. We're not giving it up if we have any say at all in the decision.

Championship Week 2021 Viewers:
B1G Final: 3.67M
B1G Ill-Iowa semi: 2.88M
B1G Mich-OSU semi: 2.51M
ACC Final: 1.8M
Big XII Final: 1.64M
SEC Final: 1.6M
MW Final: 1.43M
P12 Final: 1.12M
BE Final: .9M
 
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#36      
pruman91
gonna watch some of nova v. providence , then maybe msu vs scUM before the big battle of purdont vs. wisky

hoops action tonight at pru-ville

ugh....raftery and loudmoth gus johnson
 
#37      
HensonHall71
jrichisamazing said:
Is this a conspiracy, or a known fact?
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As others have pointed out - the committee has admitted in years past they could not/did not reflect the BTT championship game into their seedings. They don't like the time of the BTT championship game and they have been clear on that. Given viewership/TV ratings, the B1G is not moving it, so it is what it is

Of course if a team that isn't going to make the tournament is in the championship game - then they have two scenarios, but that has been rare

So if it's us against Purdue in the championship game I imagine our seeding and Purdue's would be locked in - they aren't going to move us from a 4 seed to a 3 seed even though it's a huge win and we would likely deserve it - it would require too many other changes in the bracket from them to accommodate to follow their bracketing rules
 
#38      
pruman91
watched 8 minutes of nova-friars ....not impressed by either team...
first time I've watched providence.....no inside game , missed at least 5 bunnies ......live and die shooting 3's
nova has little offensive scheme's so far....5th or 6th game I've seen them .....vastly overrated ...

could say that about both teams , east coast bias in the polls ...................................jmho
 
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DeonThomas
Rocky said:
Tonight's Big Ten and AP Top 25 games - all times EST


6:30 PM: Providence (9) at Villanova (11), Tennessee (13) at Georgia
7:00 PM: Ole Miss at Kentucky (7), Nebraska at OSU (22)
7:30 PM: MSU at Michigan
8:00 PM: Duke (4) at Pitt, Kansas (6) at TCU, Cincinnati at Houston (15)
9:00 PM: Purdue (8) at Wisconsin (10)
11:00PM: Arizona (2) at USC (16)
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Need AZ to also win, for a couple of different reasons.
 
#41      
AnnaMay
pruman91 said:
watched 8 minutes of nova-friars ....not impressed by either team...
first time I've watched providence.....no inside game , missed at least 5 bunnies ......live and die shooting 3's
nova has little offensive scheme's so far....5th or 6th game I've seen them .....vastly overrated ...

could say that about both teams , east coast bias in the polls ...................................jmho
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Yup and the Friars have played no one really. They have won the games though..
 
#42      
pruman91
AnnaMay said:
Yup and the Friars have played no one really. They have won the games though..
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one of the growling announcers said won 7 games by , I believe , 7 points or less.....sounds like wisky................
 
#44      
DMWSuperFan
Bucktown said:
Big 10 Standings

1. Purdue (15 - 5) Defeated Illinois and Wisconsin based on round-robin record (3-1).
2. Illinois (15 - 5) With Wisconsin, lost to Purdue based on round-robin record (1-2). Defeated Wisconsin based on winning percentage against #4 teams [Mich St and Ohio St] (2-1).
3. Wisconsin (15 - 5) With Illinois, lost to Purdue based on round-robin record (1-2). Lost to Illinois based on winning percentage against #4 teams [Mich St and Ohio St] (2-2).
4. Mich St (13 - 7) Defeated Ohio St based on head-to-head record (1-0).
5. Ohio St (13 - 7) Lost to Mich St based on head-to-head record (0-1).
6. Rutgers (11 - 9) Defeated Iowa based on head-to-head record (1-0).
7. Iowa (11 - 9) Lost to Rutgers based on head-to-head record (0-1).
8. Michigan (10 - 10) Defeated Indiana based on head-to-head record (1-0).
9. Indiana (10 - 10) Lost to Michigan based on head-to-head record (0-1).
10. Maryland (7 - 13) With Penn St, defeated N'western based on round-robin record (2-1). Defeated Penn St based on winning percentage against #1 teams [Illinois, Purdue, and Wisconsin] (1-3).
11. Penn St (7 - 13) With Maryland, defeated N'western based on round-robin record (2-1). Lost to Maryland based on winning percentage against #1 teams [Illinois, Purdue, and Wisconsin] (0-3).
12. N'western (7 - 13) Lost to Maryland and Penn St based on round-robin record (1-3).
13. Minnesota (4 - 16)
14. Nebraska (2 - 18)

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I tried explaining how complex this thing can get with OSU’s last loss. That number 4 spot can get interesting.
 
#45      
ptgrd23
SuperintendentChalmers said:
Regardless of the occasional seeding complication, the last game before the bracket announcement is the best TV slot there is, kind of like the Rose Bowl. We're not giving it up if we have any say at all in the decision.

Championship Week 2021 Viewers:
B1G Final: 3.67M
B1G Ill-Iowa semi: 2.88M
B1G Mich-OSU semi: 2.51M
ACC Final: 1.8M
Big XII Final: 1.64M
SEC Final: 1.6M
MW Final: 1.43M
P12 Final: 1.12M
BE Final: .9M
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Wow - that is impressive. Of course maybe people just wanted to see Ayo, Kofi and Andre play
 

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