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As Navy pointed out, they have a lack of depth. We have been lucky enough that our role guys have helped us win games, Payne against Nebraska, Goode against MSU, Podz against NU.
When tOSU is at full strength they are as good as anyone. In an emergency we can go 11/12 deep and not be totally crapping our pants if someone has to check in (see BBV, Podz).
So yes, they lost to PSU, but I’m not buying them being a bad team for losing games with guys injured.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Let's not get carried away with Iowa. They are certainly playing well, but there is almost zero chance they shoot like they did today vs. Rutgers...or any other top B1G team. Bohannon got exactly zero points against us. They are a matchup issue for some teams, but if you can run them off the 3 pt line and smash them in the paint....they've got exactly one player that can hurt you. Keep them off the offensive glass and they are toast.
Branham couldn’t miss. He hasn’t had a performance like that since. Happens.
OurMottoisOskeeWowWow
- Illinois
Ohio State chokes to Penn State. Some early March Madness there.
Keegan or Perkins?
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TxT is a beast of a team. But they match up well against ISU, force a lot of turnovers and fast breaks. I’d expect they take care of Okla.
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Juwan is not a good coach. He got really lucky last season IMO. Woodson is a much better coach, but IU doesn't have the talent to be top of B1G. Fran is a pretty good coach and develops his guys, but not great at coaching defense. Underwood is the best coach in the league. Of course Izzo is has the history of winning, but I think Underwood right now is better than Izzo. If I had to rank the B1G coaches now just based on the recruiting and coaching of the past couple seasons:
1. Underwood
2. Painter
3. Gard
4. Pikiell
5. Fran
6. Holtmann
7. Juwan
8. Izzo
9. Hoiberg
10. Collins
Woodson, Shrewsberry, Johnson and Manning are all new coaches to the B1G, so can't really say how good they are yet. But I think Shrewsberry is probably the one out of these four who will have the most success in the future followed by Johnson. Woodson can be successful but I think he's too old school to get elite recruits at IU. Manning will probably be gone after this season.
1. Underwood
2. Painter
3. Gard
4. Pikiell
5. Fran
6. Holtmann
7. Juwan
8. Izzo
9. Hoiberg
10. Collins
Woodson, Shrewsberry, Johnson and Manning are all new coaches to the B1G, so can't really say how good they are yet. But I think Shrewsberry is probably the one out of these four who will have the most success in the future followed by Johnson. Woodson can be successful but I think he's too old school to get elite recruits at IU. Manning will probably be gone after this season.
Don’t like Izzo but his record is the best of the bunch historically. Don’t think you make judgements based on a couple of years. Howard had 1 good year and 1 bad year. Don’t know where he will be long term. Pikiell hasn’t exactly had a juggernaut either. Like our coach and the trend but some years are better than others. Kofi-less team will be a test.
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Juwan ahead of Izzo? Sorry but Juwan couldn't hold Izzo's jock strap when it comes to coaching. Izzo's easily Top 3 or 4, even now.
When comparing Howard to other coaches one must factor in the Slap-O-Meter.
That's like saying Kofi or Hawkins. Perkins has been playing well lately but averaging 6 ppg compared to 23 ppg isn't comparable.
sdfidaho
- Boise, Idaho
Why can’t we have a laugh button
I've been thinking the same thing - I've only watched a little bit of OSU since our game, but I wonder where is this guy that Brad called "the best player in the Big Ten" in his postgame - he certainly looked like it against us, we couldn't stop him
sdfidaho
- Boise, Idaho
Dude’s been to eight…EIGHT Final Fours
He can coach a little
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Izzo 8? That is homer comedy right there. Izzo below 2 on any B1G coach list is laughable. Brad is climbing and has been 1a or 1b over the last couple of years...but you can't ignore what Gard does with his Wisky squads...and Painter IMHO is the best X/O game coach in the B1G year in year out.
He said 'based on the recruiting and coaching of the past couple seasons:' In that case Izzo may not be 8 but he definitely ain't in the top 2.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Yeah I saw that, but I read it as ranking them now....based on the last two seasons. Not ranking them only over the last two seasons.
Maybe my interpretation is off.
I don't disagree that Izzo is below BU and Painter and probably Gard just ranking the last two seasons. But he isn't 8.....and the last two seasons haven't dropped him below 2. He and Painter are the cream of the B1G coaches for a decade plus.
Maybe for the last 2 season yes. But that's a pretty arbitrary line to draw and I think you could look at any experienced coach's tenure and see a couple bad seasons in there. Just prior to this 2 year stretch Izzo won 3 consecutive Big Ten regular season titles and made a Final Four. So if you drew the line at 5 years instead of 2 then you probably are talking about him as being in the top 2 or 3.
But that's the line that he drew so going by that he isn't top 2.
Game has passed Izzo by. I think he is closer to 8 than 2 now.
Passed him by so much that he’s the BigTen coach most recently in the Final Four. I hope when things pass me by I’m still that good.
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