3/8 Games

User Name · Mar 8, 2017

Wake Forest is in 132/132 brackets on bracket matrix

Our resume is fairly similar

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/WAKE/ILL

TylerK311 · Mar 8, 2017

User Name said:
Our resume is fairly similar

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/WAKE/ILL

I can see how it looks similar, but it's not really IMO. Their RPI is higher, SOS higher, no bad losses vs. our 1, 1 great win against Louisville vs. our none. They went even in a better conference at 9-9, we were 8-10. I still think we can get in obviously. Maybe even with 1 win if we get more help, but if it comes down to Wake or us. It's Wake without a doubt in my eyes.

schnaurt · Mar 8, 2017

User Name said:
Wake Forest is in 132/132 brackets on bracket matrix

Our resume is fairly similar

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/WAKE/ILL

Boy this really highlights the overall love for the ACC by those protecting brackets right now. Our resume actually looks slightly better yet most have us out of their projections.

schnaurt · Mar 8, 2017

TylerK311 said:
I can see how it looks similar, but it's not really IMO. Their RPI is higher, SOS higher, no bad lossses vs. our 1, 1 great win against Louisville vs. our none. They went even in a better conference at 9-9, we were 8-10. I still think we can get in obviously. Maybe even with 1 win if we get more help, but if it comes down to Wake or us. It's Wake without a doubt in my eyes.

Funny how folks see things differently. Their strength of schedule is better but we have 3 more top 100 wins with the same amount of losses.

TylerK311 · Mar 8, 2017

schnaurt said:
Funny how folks see things differently. Their strength of schedule is better but we have 3 more top 100 wins with the same amount of losses.

The only thing we have on them is that though. That's not going to be what puts us in over them. I want us in over them as much as the next guy, but that's just not the case right now imo.

illinihawk16 · Mar 8, 2017

schnaurt said:
Boy this really highlights the overall love for the ACC by those protecting brackets right now. Our resume actually looks slightly better yet most have us out of their projections.

How do you figure? They have better RPI, better SOS, same record against top 50 (but their wins were against higher ranked teams, and their losses were against higher ranked teams), and they have 0 bad losses to our 1. The only thing we have going for us is our record against 51-100.

WesterveltVictoryCigar · Mar 8, 2017

schnaurt said:
Funny how folks see things differently. Their strength of schedule is better but we have 3 more top 100 wins with the same amount of losses.

The difference in RPI is pretty significant and similar to the difference in other rankings, too (Pomeroy, Sagarin).

Whitman2020 · Mar 8, 2017

TylerK311 said:
The only thing we have on them is that though. That's not going to be what puts us in over them. I want us in over them as much as the next guy, but that's just not the case right now imo.

Their loss today isn't on there. And our game tomorrow isn't either.

TylerK311 · Mar 8, 2017

WesterveltVictoryCigar said:
The difference in RPI is pretty significant and similar to the difference in other rankings, too (Pomeroy, Sagarin).

Exactly. If Wake would have lost to Louisville, we'd have a decent case.

rdillini · Mar 8, 2017

Mizzou beats Auburn on ridiculous comeback. No tourney I oli actions but never hurts to see Bruce Prarl go down at the buzzer.

TylerK311 · Mar 8, 2017

Whitman2020 said:
Their loss today isn't on there. And our game tomorrow isn't either.

True, but they still lost to a good team. We'd have to get through Purdue to be in the conversation with them.

schnaurt · Mar 8, 2017

illinihawk16 said:
How do you figure? They have better RPI, better SOS, same record against top 50 (but their wins were against higher ranked teams, and their losses were against higher ranked teams), and they have 0 bad losses to our 1. The only thing we have going for us is our record against 51-100.

I understand an accept yours and the others points. I was never stating that my view point was the correct one.

I think we can agree that we both want the same outcome of the beloved dancing.

User Name · Mar 8, 2017

TylerK311 said:
It's Wake without a doubt in my eyes.

I'd pick Wake over Illinois too, but Illinois isn't that far off.

Illinois has 3 more top 100 wins. Northwestern beat Wake Forest. Illinois beat Northwestern twice. One of the committee criteria is "head-to-head results and results versus common opponents." Illinois SOS/RPI/Road record aren't that far off when you consider the other bubble teams. Conference records aren't a factor. I think the resumes are pretty close, but Illinois is seen as barely on the bubble. We're in 9/132 on bracket matrix.

Lovethechief78 · Mar 8, 2017

For what it's worth, UW beating USC by 5 late in first half

Jkat00 · Mar 9, 2017

Jkat00 said:
Bubble games. Bold are the teams we want to win.

Miami vs Syracuse 11AM ESPN MIA -1.5

Oregon St vs Califronia 4:30 PAC12 CAL -14.5

Wake Forest vs Virginia Tech 6:00 ESPN2 NO LINE YET

DePaul vs Xavier 8:30 FS1 XAV -10

Washington vs USC 10:30 PAC12 USC -11.5

2/5. Both Xavier and USC were losing at halftime. USC survives late run by Washington to hold on. Illinois is hoping for a little more drama tomorrow.