Adam Miller transfers to LSU

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I dont believe his game is special. Ayo is special, Curbelo is special. Hitting an occasional spot up 3, and cutting to the basket once a game is what I do on Tuesday night. The problem is, I'm 52 and dont move very well. It wont get you to the league and it isn't special
 
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I dont believe his game is special. Ayo is special, Curbelo is special. Hitting an occasional spot up 3, and cutting to the basket once a game is what I do on Tuesday night. The problem is, I'm 52 and dont move very well. It wont get you to the league and it isn't special
I don't know man, have you tried entering the draft? Never know until you try...
 
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I don't know man, have you tried entering the draft? Never know until you try...

I was in the MLB draft in 09, and the NFL draft in 2011, I've been working on my vertical, and I believe my growth plates are still open( hoping for 5'11). My handles are faster than I am which isn't ideal. I'm heading for Latvia at best, on a league minimum deal
 
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I appreciate his contribution to our great 20/21 season, however, I watched every minute of every game and Adam Miller will never
be a great PG. He just doesn't have the handles. I think his handlers, Mom and whomever, influenced this a great deal. I'm sure they
were in his ear telling him that he has to have the ball in his hands all the time.
One post mentioned BU gave AMthe green light to shoot but video reply indicates AM passed up shots and passed the ball off. Was not the offensive plan 1. Into Kofi 2a. out to Ayo 2b. out to Frazier 3. AM shoots 4. Grandison or Williams shoots ?????
 
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Hate losing a Peoria kid, another Mr. Basketball again, to yet another non basketball school. Well, not completely non basketball but not who you suspect. It’s a different era and there is no loyalty with these kids anymore. I listened to Mr. Bardo’s take on this on his podcast and he was spot on. Stay at Illinois and you are set for life. The second largest alumni network in the world. You become a legend at tour state school, and you are set. All these kids dream of playing in the nba for the money. But all are not close to nba players. Steve mentioned a couple of other leagues starting up other than the G/league. Hey, I am all for getting paid. But I am old school too. Work on your game (for free), get an education (for free), be a kid, have fun, win some hardware, honor your commitment and go play anywhere in the world for 10/15 years.
in my opinion these kids are coddled, told they are the next (fill in the blank) and simply are not emotionally ready to be a professional. They have too many greedy handlers not looking out for Their best interest. I wish Adam Miller all the best. I don’t see really what he is going to gain, but I can respect a very hard decision for that young man. I like guys who want to be at Illinois. I like players that represent the program in a good light and see the benefits of suiting up for Illinois. Should be an exciting time in Champaign for some time to come and really looking forward to how next years team comes together.
Go Illini!!
 
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As a 35 year, avid watcher of Illiniois basketball. AM was enjoyable and serviceable. Very much so, for a freshman. But he is not a "special" talent.

Ayo has height and more importantly, length... which allowed him, with work, to mature into the guard that could get his shot off in almost any circumstance, and his ability to hit that shot, improved dramatically (along with many intangibles that were already there)... as well as handles, mid-range, 3-pt, and defense.

Curbello has quickness and handles that cannot be attained without more hours than AM has to dedicate to achieve them. He has a NATURAL skill set that he will continue to build on and around. He could improve his shot (most obviously) and with time, at game speed, his decision making.

Point being, these two had things that were special, upon which to build.

Adam, doesn't have the length of Ayo. He doesn't have the quick of Curbello. He's not 6'7.
He has a good 3pt shot (learnable and improvable), but his aspirations are specifically not to be a spot up 3pt shooter.
He's certainly quick enough, fast enough, strong enough, talented enough, to be a very good collegiate basketball player.
But... I personally believe that he is who he is. A strong collegiate player, with the ability to get some $ to play overseas eventually.

So, while I wanted him to stay, because he was one of our guys and I wanted to see us succeed with him (and all of our guys)... his leaving is not remotely catastrophic, and his production (even future production) is absolutely and unequivocally, replaceable.

Good luck, Adam.
 
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As a 35 year, avid watcher of Illiniois basketball. AM was enjoyable and serviceable. Very much so, for a freshman. But he is not a "special" talent.

Ayo has height and more importantly, length... which allowed him, with work, to mature into the guard that could get his shot off in almost any circumstance, and his ability to hit that shot, improved dramatically (along with many intangibles that were already there)... as well as handles, mid-range, 3-pt, and defense.

Curbello has quickness and handles that cannot be attained without more hours than AM has to dedicate to achieve them. He has a NATURAL skill set that he will continue to build on and around. He could improve his shot (most obviously) and with time, at game speed, his decision making.

Point being, these two had things that were special, upon which to build.

Adam, doesn't have the length of Ayo. He doesn't have the quick of Curbello. He's not 6'7.
He has a good 3pt shot (learnable and improvable), but his aspirations are specifically not to be a spot up 3pt shooter.
He's certainly quick enough, fast enough, strong enough, talented enough, to be a very good collegiate basketball player.
But... I personally believe that he is who he is. A strong collegiate player, with the ability to get some $ to play overseas eventually.

So, while I wanted him to stay, because he was one of our guys and I wanted to see us succeed with him (and all of our guys)... his leaving is not remotely catastrophic, and his production (even future production) is absolutely and unequivocally, replaceable.

Good luck, Adam.
Agree. A loss for sure but not irreplaceable. We’ve got 2 guys coming in next year that can do everything he can do who are each 6’6 or better, and 2 more 6’5 plus guys the year after that. And, all joking aside, hopefully Hutch is healthy at 6’6.

Think we have a good thing going and would have loved for AM to be a part of it, but we are in good shape at the wing. Best of luck to him.
 
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Every possible opinion on this subject, including the one I'm expressing right this moment, has already been expressed multiple times.

By the same token, if Alan Griffin and Mark Smith are any indication, this board is going to be discussing Adam Miller for years, so may as well leave this thread up to take the pressure off other threads the AM discussion might hijack (such as Basketball Recruiting, Coaching Carousel, Box Office Films, and Images / Animated GIF Testing & Help Desk).
 
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GalloppingGost: “It’s a different era and there is no loyalty with these kids anymore.”

Miller showed loyalty by initially choosing The Orange. But with many people today, there is little to no level of patience. They want things to happen RIGHT NOW. For Miller, it didn’t. With the Transfer Portal doors swinging so freely now, patience will be in even shorter supply.

“I listened to Mr. Bardo’s take on this on his podcast and he was spot on. Stay at Illinois and you are set for life. The second largest alumni network in the world. You become a legend at tour state school, and you are set.”

This is a tremendous advantage to carry with you for life for those who take advantage of it. But again, this involves a longer time-frame-kind-of thinking which is in very short supply these days. Perhaps this is something that needs to be emphasized much more by whomever ends up recruiting for The Beloved.

“In my opinion these kids are coddled, told they are the next (fill in the blank) and simply are not emotionally ready to be a professional. They have too many greedy handlers not looking out for Their best interest.”

Once again, this seems to be a generational thing. Years ago, the ‘coddling’ and the ‘handlers’ buzzing around you like crazed bees was not as big a problem. Now, it is. And the young guys are vulnerable to it and get sucked in. Who doesn't want to be told they are the Next Big Thing?

“I like guys who want to be at Illinois. I like players that represent the program in a good light and see the benefits of suiting up for Illinois. Should be an exciting time in Champaign for some time to come and really looking forward to how next years team comes together.”

You sound like you would be an excellent Recruiter. Or – at least – writing the Mission Statement for Illini Recruiters!

Yes, in general it is a different era and those who figure out how to play it right will rule the Ball World for the next 20 years.